Thursday, 31 July 2008

'Jake's a thinker' - Jim Sheridan discusses Brothers

In the Spring 2008 edition of the DGA Quarterly, Jim Sheridan, director of My Left Foot and, of course, Brothers, discussed his 'cinematic sense', his instinctive feel for filmmaking and his relationship with actors, as well as the differences between American and European cinema. Here, at last, we get to hear something about Brothers, and about the different acting styles of the three Brothers' leads - Tobey Maguire, Natalie Portman and one Jake Gyllenhaal.


'Sheridan’s mention of mythic Celtic fathers segues into talk of such mythic and afflicted brothers as Cain and Abel, a story that is crucial to his latest film, Brothers (due for release in late 2008), which is based on the 2004 Danish film written and directed by Susan Biers. He had been very moved by that film when he first saw it, intrigued by the themes of intense love and lethal jealousy between two polar opposite brothers—one a career military man, the other a lifelong screw-up who only comes into his own by caring for his brother’s family after his super-achieving sibling goes missing in Afghanistan and is declared dead.'


'Sheridan realized transposing a Danish drama for an American audience could be risky. “You can’t just microwave something,” he says emphatically. “You can’t just reheat it.” The challenge is to find what works best in the story about Americans, for Americans. “There are rules that apply to American cinema that don’t apply to other forms of cinema,” he explains. “In a Danish film, people can get drunk with impunity. They can leave their kids at home unattended while they go pick up their brother in the bar. In an American movie, you’re not allowed. Americans are different and the rules are different. So, all the time I’m consciously working within a framework of American storytelling.”'


'“I’m not even sure actors are directable. I think the more you know, the less you try to direct them. The more you just try to not impede.” The goal is to encourage spontaneous discovery in the act of making the film. Working with children on In America, he engaged them by letting them call “Action!” and “Cut!” With Daniel Day-Lewis (with whom he’s made three films), or Tobey Maguire, Jake Gyllenhaal and Natalie Portman in Brothers, his method of rehearsal is less about running lines than engaging in a Socratic back-and-forth, exploring what’s on the page with an open mind, asking and being asked about character and story points. He is extremely comfortable at being challenged.'



'“I invite a certain dissonance with the actor,” says Sheridan. “Most times, you want the actor to push back. Daniel is so focused, so organized that he’s like a balance for my chaos. He will just do it exactly the way I imagined it when I was writing, without having to ‘direct’ him. Natalie is a very classical actress, very sure of where she’s going—her only difficulty was her tremendous young age, being 26 years old and playing a mother of two, but she made the stretch. Tobey’s very controlled, a thinking actor. Great actors on film, you always know what they’re thinking. Jake’s a thinker too, but more like me, questioning everything, improvising. But actors generally have got to be allowed to push back, otherwise you’re just trying to fit them into a pictorial composition.”'


With a big thanks to Xenia for the link. Pictures from IHJ.

42 comments:

sheba said...

Thanks very much for that Xenia and WDW, a great insight into the thought process of the director and what he wants to get out of his actor. I loved the socratic Q&A encouraged by Sheridan, it's probably the best way to direct particular types of actors.

I'm so hopeful of Brothers opening at a film festival somewhere in the world, hopefully my favorite, Rome *rubs hands gleefully at the prospect*

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Morning Sheba! Jim Sheridan sounds like just the kind of director for Jake - giving him debate and freedom to improvise. I can't wait to see the resulting performance. Interesting to consider that each of Jim's leads would have been treated differently, which, I suppose, they would be. I'm hoping for a film festival opening somewhere, too. And yes, big thanks to Xenia :D

Have a good day! You could cut the muggy air out there with a cake slicer...

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the post. It took some of my fears away concerning remakes. Many of them shouldn't have been done because the just copied them and the result was more than bad. (The worst remake for me is still "City Of Angels" with N. Cage and M. Ryan. It's typical Hollywood stuff - so I prefer the German b/w movie "Himmel über Berlin" with Bruno Ganz much more. But my private list of nasty remakes is very long.)

I really had mixed feelings when I heard about the remake because I really like the Danish movie. It's European so to say. Now I'm very curious. Many, many things will be different and I think the movie will be interesting. And maybe I'll say for the first time that a Hollywood remake is equal or even better.

T.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi there T :D I'm not so keen on remakes myself - I refuse to go and see the new Brideshead revisited for instance because I'm stubborn and if there were a remake of BBM there'd be trouble - but sometimes they work. My fave remake is the Thomas Crown Affair. Taking a 'foreign' classic and making it Hollywood can be so wrong - look at The Wicker Man (not that I ever would as the original is the most frightening movie ever made).

But Jim Sheridan is the type of director I want to trust and he's not typical Hollywood. And Jake is most definitely an actor I trust. Also, I'm hoping for more than just a remake.

I've never seen the Danish version and won't until after the US one is out. So please no spoilers from anyone! (winks at Pia as I know she's dying to tell me all but is valiantly resisting!)

Anonymous said...

*Unfortunately* I watched the Danish movie three years ago or so. No spoilers will come from me, though I always can watch the DVD again. :o)
Maybe Jim Sheridan had told some spoilers but my mouth is closed. :o)
Yes, like you hope it won't be a remake - more a movie based on the same theme.
Maybe more people will watch the movie 'cause the Danish one wasn't very popular here - most people prefer the US movies.

T.

Ruby said...

I'm puzzled by Jim Sherridan's remark about rules of US cinema. Perhaps one of our stateside chums can enlighten me? Can you not have the scene described, of a parent leaving a child to go to a bar ?

I'm puzzled by what seems to me to be random censorship. It's ok to show acts of extreme violence between adults but showing child neglect or careless parenting is forbidden? Or is that it doesn't play well with audiences? Or have I just completely misunderstood his point? :D

Xenia said...

Thanks WDW, it's my pleasure! :D

I was so happy to finally find something about Brothers I had to share it, and what better place that this place? :)

And it's really a good interview, isn't it? Once again a director confirms Jake is a thinker and needs some freedom to express his feelings on set. The pictorial composition part reminded me of Jake saying in an interview that David Fincher made the actor feel merely like a colour...

Oh Sheba, Rome is my favourite place too because it is the only one I could reach trying to get me the second chance to see Jake!:)

Thanks for looking for that video WDW, I wanna watch it again because I remember an incredibly chemistry between Jake & Heath, they spoke each-other by just looking at each-other...*sigh*

Have a great day everyone! :)

Anonymous said...

O thank you Xenia and WDW - not only for the fascinating article but for the introduction to DGA -
Hey, Ruby, I dont think Jim S is speaking of censorship but of translating a story cross-culturally, not only in terms of language but cultural styles -
different kinds of bars/pubs, diffrent legal systems, child raising traditions, family systems, etcetc.

I was interested that Sheridan gave the family Irish surname. Perhap part of his own re-understanding of the film in terms only of USAan culture but that of Irish-American, which would be familiar to him.

Lots of food for thot! Thanks again!

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi T! Thanks for that :D I think more people will see this - it's just inevitable, due to the language more than anything, I suppose. But I like to think it could be because Jake's in it!

Hey Ruby :D I've not been able to spend time reading the article in great detail so I'll have a proper read when I get home. But there seem to me to be so many double standards in film and TV censorship.

Hi Xenia :D Always good to hear someone apart from us call Jake 'a thinker'! Shows that we're not biased at all... Rome was so great for me as I saw Jake there and I saw you! Nevertheless, the most rushed red carpet that I've ever experienced... I'll look forward to finding the vid when I get in :D

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Morning Pia :D Posting at the same time... That's interesting, the idea of Jim translating the film towards somewhere where he feels comfortable, which I suppose is normal, but we'll see it more clearly with Brothers. I like the Irish-American angle. Gives it that way to bridge Europe and the US. Just need to see it!

Ruby said...

hmmm thanks Pia. Still pondering this one cause it's interesting! I get the cultural thing , that what might be acceptable in one culture isn't in another. I guess I'm actually imposing my own values here - that leaving the child unattended would be wrong - and assuming that might therefore be censored (surprisingly to me, hence the question ).

So it's not that you can't show it, just that the perception / reaction would be different if you did.

Lunchtime over, back to work. xxx

Anonymous said...

Hey, Ruby, I also find cross-cultural translation very interesting!

I loved the story of JS showing his father his own face in the mirror - for JS an insight into his own gifts and passions.

Anonymous said...

^ ^ ^

p.s. this would be called in Alcoholic Anonymous language, "an intervention"

Anonymous said...

Thinking of the Danish movie I think I know what Jim S means what he had to *change*. I remember some scenes but won't mention them.
It'll be very interesting to finally compare both movies from this *cultural pov* as I call it.

T.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi there everyone - back home thank heavens...

I've had a good read now and I think it's interesting how political correctness is perhaps more influential in some cinemas than in others. Just as censor certificates can vary so widely between regions. It is an interesting subject and it's also interesting how are of it Jim Sheridan is.

Hello Pia and Ruby :D

Hey T - it's going to be fascinating comparing the cultural differences, although it can take a long time before I notice anything else in a film than Jake!

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Xenia - I've been looking around - you don't mean the Venice Photocall from 2006, do you?

Anonymous said...

Hi WDW, its a great article, no?

I dont think what Jim Sheridan is talking about has anything to do with political correctness. You can more easily fudge accents and costume and correct cooking utensils in a film about
Ancient Persia than you can in a story like Brothers.

If the film takes place in suburban anglo USA you gotta play with Yankee dollers,not kroner
:D

(altho I may misunderstand what you're saying. . . it's THAT hot this afternoon!)



.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hey Pia! Damn hot :P I think we're talking about different things actually - just shows how all this sets our minds going off in different directions.

For some reason, Jim's words set my mind off thinking about some of the 'grit' you can get in some European cinema, which I don't think some audiences elsewhere would find palatable. It's interesting the different flavour different regions can bring to the same story, and how sometimes one is adapted to the other.

Anonymous said...

I also think it's the plot of the movie. US and European soldiers are in Afghanistan and yet their tasks are still different. (I remember the discussions here in Germany to send soldiers in the more dangerous parts.)
It'll be interesting for me to see the pov's - the European pov and the American pov. That - besides Jake - makes this movie so damned interesting for me (and to see whether the endings are identical).
Making such movies is always like walking on thin ice.
I only pray that he won't give the movie the typical patriotic touch since no war and people being involved deserves it. I really hope he'll show the tragic of the characters in a fine way.

T.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I understand what you're saying now.

Misunderstanding perhaps based on your stubborn reluctance hahaha just kidding to see the Danish film, where there are a FEW things that would not translate.

Thinking of Diary of a Scandal, legal age-of-consent is diffrent in diffrent countries.

Prudishness in USAan films another story. . .

Anonymous said...

T., the script of Brothers is around and about and Ive read it and was pleased to find it did not mess with the integrity of the story.

Although dealing with Taliban is both in Danish and USAan film is skating on thin ice as far as "racial profiling" is concerned.

Was a concern in casting Jake as Prince of Persia.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hey T - it will be truly fascinating to compare these treatments, while at the same time enjoying Jake and that tattoo on his neck! In total agreement about jingoism being avoided at all costs.

Hi Pia! Yeah, my stubbornness :D I love not knowing what happened in the original. I will approach Jake's Brothers in all innocence :D Levels of prudishness just vary so enormously...

Anonymous said...

I think both movies will be alike and different at the same time. They will have their own and unique charm. :o) But it won't be a *family movie*.
I promised - no spoilers - so I want say anything about the tattoo. :o)
Just one thing (it's not a spoiler) - in the Danish movie the younger brother is the better looking one. :o)

T.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi T! Thanks so much for not saying anything about the tattoo! Ruy and I have had some fun speculating about that :D Of course, according to our WDW rewrite of the Brothers script last winter, we had it that both brothers were played by Jake and that the film was instead called Twins. I have never been a Tobey fan so I'm hoping he doesn't put me off here too much. Glad to hear it won't be a 'family movie', but as I say, I know nothing about it beyond the basic plot. And I don't suppose it will hurt to have both versions of the film :)

Hope everyone's having a good evening - a little bit cooler :D

twistedlogic said...

Thanks for the Brothers update, WDw and Xenia:) Sounds like this film is going to give us plenty to enjoy and discuss - even without our re-writes(though I'm hoping some of them make it into the final cut *cough*toplessshavingscene*cough*).

About the whole adapting the film for an American audience thing, I would think it refers more to cultural differences. The audience has to relate to, and care about, the characters and that's less likely to happen and if they're doing things that maybe are alien to the audience. I dunno, that's just my take on it.

It sounds like Jake would have enjoyed working with Jim Sheridan. And why am I not surprised that he described Jake as "questioning everything, improvising". Sounds like our Jakey;)

Ruby said...

I think it was Sheridan's language that took me down a different path at first: referring to 'rules' and things that are 'not allowed'.

I'm conflicted. I don't want any spoilers and have no intention of watching the Danish film first, but I wanna know about the tatt. I spent ages trying to figure out what it is.

T - can you give me clue? Whisper it and WDW won't hear you. D:D

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hey TL! I think the topless shaving scene must be a cert (fortunately there's no need for such a scene in PoP because the majority of the film should have a topless Prince :D) I agree very much with what you say about audiences having to identify with the characters and having some points of common reference. You can just imagine Jake wanting explanations for everything - he just has that interest and drive. Can't wait :)

Hey Rubes :D Maybe T can let you know in a cipher. Or in Danish? I kind of want to know about the tatt too - because it looks so bloody sexy - but I'm trying to be good (I wonder if the Prince has body markings of any kind...)

Zodiac said...

Have you heard?

PoP is pushed back a year, to May 31, 2010.

:(

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=47479

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Zodiac! I'll ignore that until Jake comes round, knocks on my door, tells me in person, apologises and then offers to wash my car and cook for me for a month to make up for it. no no no no no!!!! So far everywhere else is sticking with the original date.... But we are so used to this with Jake films. Let's wait and see :D

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hmmm, looking around and everywhere is Disney confusion - PoP was slated for July then pulled forward a month and now, very probably, pushed back 11 months. At this rate, the film will be opening last Christmas. Maybe Disney could take some advice from paramount on how best to confuse and annoy Gyllenhaalics using the Zodiac method. I would not, however, be surprised if it changes again.

I can't imagine Jake's much impressed.

sheba said...

If true.... damn.. bad news :O(

Speculating I know, but do you think it may have something to do with the combination of the writer's director's and actor's strike?

I'd love to know how long the shoot is planned for?

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Sheba - bad indeed :( I think the shoot is supposed to finish around the end of November. It sounds like it has more to do with wanting to open on a pubic holiday in the US and not clashing with Transformers II, which sounds like no clash at all to me :(

paulh said...

I have no regrets about having seen the new "Brideshead Revisited." Definitely worth seeing, especially compared to the movie I would have seen instead: "Stepbrothers," a movie that sounds so stupid my head aches just thinking about it. :-(

In any event, what's so terrible about trying to find new insights in a story by using it for another movie? Every one of the "Star is born" versions was different. "Alfie" with Jude Law caught some nuances and changing cultural assumptions that the same story with Michael Caine did not.
Granted, "Italian affair" and "Ladykillers" added very little to what their predecessors had offered. "Breathless"? I don't know, as I never saw the earlier version.

I want to enjoy "Brothers" on its own. Seeing the "original" version does not seem necessary to me.

Anonymous said...

Interesting post today - nice to read about another of the directors Jake has worked with, Jim Sheridan, and his style of directing. I loved My Left Foot and In The Name of The Father with Daniel Day-Lewis, and really am looking forward to Brothers. Just heard about PoP being pushed back to 2010! :( It's a long wait, but on the other hand, they have to release it at the best time, also I think it's going to be a bigger project than first thought, so much the better! Till then, we'll have to make do with all the info, and I hope we get a few pics of Jake. :)

T, Himmel über Berlin, or as I know it, Wings of Desire, is one of my favorite movies ever - just an amazing vision by Wim Wenders. I loved Bruno Ganz' angel in an overcoat. I never did see City of Angels, but have heard it doesn't compare.

Anonymous said...

Good morning everyone,

Ruby... you can look at the Danish cover/poster. To be sure I'd have to watch the dvd again and that I won't right now. :o)

We'll see if Disney confirms the *delay* of PoP. You only can speculate. They'd have more time for the CGI now but for us it means to wait one more year.

Thanks bk. I always forget the international title because I only watch it in German. :o) Wim Wenders is one of the best directors we have. Don't watch the remake - you'll have the same reactions I had.

T.

Xenia said...

Morning WDW and everyone!:)

Hi Xenia - I've been looking around - you don't mean the Venice Photocall from 2006, do you?

I mean the DGA photocall WDW, it goes with these photos. You posted it sometime ago, but I can't find the link anymore...:(

Have a good day!

Anonymous said...

bk, I'm a huge Sheridan and Wenders fan too :)

Seems like a hell of a wait for PoP - and yeah, what clash with Transformers?

Sorry paulh, one of the things I dislike most about HW at the moment is Jude Law working through Michael Caine's oeuvre. Alfie remake was unwatchably horrible.

Anonymous said...

Hi Xenia - I'm not sure but the first piccies from the site are from the small clip IHJ has in the media section besides some more clips. They're from the SAG Awards 2006.

T.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Good morning everyone! I think my temperature has gone down a little bit after the PoP news last night... Trying to look on the bright side - that we'll get a better film, not rushed, blah, blah, blah. Deep breaths! I'm defintiely boycotting Transformers II ;D

Hi Paul! I think I'm more attached to BRevisited than many as I'm an Oxford gal. I don't know why that makes a difference, but it seems too! I couldn't bring myself to see Alfie as I love the original and Jude Law is no Michael Caine. I want to judge Brothers on its own merits too :D Still not heard anything hear of the Stepbrothers film - sounds like a good thing!

Hi BK! I'm so glad we have Brothers - and let's hope Nailed - to look forward too. That'd be bad if we had to wait 2 whole years for the next film. You have a great attitude so I'll try and adopt it :D

Morning T - it sounds pretty confirmed now, unfortunately. I want some bloody good CGI!

Morning Xenia! Sounds like, as T says, that's the SAG Awards. I'll have another look :D

Hey there Nouskie :D I've always enjoyed Jim Sheridan's films - we're on to a good one with Brothers :)

Have a great day everyone!

paulh said...

Jim Sheridan seems to be built just like me, bless him!

I doubt that there's any chance of Jude Law working his way through all (or even most) of Michael Caine's oeuvre. He's only made "Alfie" and "Sleuth" so far. And, though I would love to see a "Dark Knight" love scene between Caine and Maggie Gyllenhaal, there are reasons (which I will not elucidate) why this will never happen. In any event, peace! I loathe most movie versions of successful TV shows. They almost all lose the spark that made the originals successful. "Car 54" in particular was a travesty, even with Al Lewis reprising his Schnauzer character after 40 years...

The optimist side of me wants to believe that Jake will make movie after movie, and we won't mind the long delay at releasing "Prince of Persia." :-)

paulh said...

Sorry, I meant to say a love scene between Jude Law and Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Paul! Me too - I hope the year will be full of Jake :) Gotta hope so...

I'd forgotten about Sleuth. I didn't watch that as I loved, again, the original and went and watched that again instead.