In the UK, the September issue of DVD Review has hit the shop shelves and it contains a great feature on Zodiac in anticipation of the film's release on DVD in the UK - with an extra - on 24 September. The review of the DVD itself will be included in next month's issue of the magazine; this edition focuses on the background to David Fincher's 'extraordinary Zodiac'. It is good indeed to see UK critics begin to rave about this excellent film, confident that the DVD will do well with viewers here.
The feature is divided into several parts, beginning with an interview with Fincher recorded on the same day that Jake Gyllenhaal and Robert Downey Jr filmed the Aqua Velva scene. Fincher makes it clear that his interest in the Zodiac is not for the murderer's success as a serial killer, calling him an 'underachiever', but because his fame is due to the pen being mightier than the sword. The Zodiac's compulsion and addiction was not about murder but about 'communicating with the Chronicle. That became far more gratifying and far more seductive than what he started out doing.' And as for the men who pursued this attention seeker, they have the 'glory' that comes with a refusal to give up or to turn away. The film shows that life isn't neat: 'It doesn't tie itself up. It presents itself in complicated ways.'
The second part of the feature looks at Mark Ruffalo and his relationship with 'the real Dave Toschi'. It's sad to hear that Toschi has been too ill to see the finished film, but Ruffalo tells us that 'he did come on set a few times and watched a few scenes and it was one of the real genuine smiles I'd seen from him.' Ruffalo tells us that Toschi's wife didn't want Dave to have anything to do with the movie but 'he really opened up to me and came to trust me.' As Ruffalo points out, the Zodiac case ruined Toschi's career: 'He caught all the shit and it ate him alive, literally. He got bleeding ulcers and ended up in the hopital. At the end of the day he was the face of the failure' of the investigation.
Lastly, the feature interviews producer Brad Fischer who has been working on a documentary for the DVD, which includes interviews with everyone involved with the original case, including survivors Mike Mageau and Bryan Hartnell. It's very sad that, when the producers hired a private investigator to locate Mageau, they found him in a detention centre in Las Vegas because of vagrancy. Later, when they needed him again, they found him living rough under a freeway underpass between LA and Vegas. As Fischer makes clear, it as crucial to everyone involved in the Zodiac project that the victims - whether of the gun, the knife or the pen - are honoured.
Little mention of Jake is made in this feature and therefore I looked to another recent review of the DVD to find praise of Jake: 'Crucial to the success of the film is the casting of the three leads. Each character is pulled into the investigation for very different reasons: intrigue; the chance for fame; professional responsibility. Jake Gyllenhaal has one of the most haunting faces in modern cinema; that of an overgrown child, at once both world-weathered and innocent. As Robert Graysmith (on whose book this is based) his refreshing lack of cynicism—almost inexplicable considering his profession here as a satirical cartoonist—means he has no conception of how the macabre could be perceived as “good business” for those who report on it.'
This article stresses how well Zodiac translates to the small screen and it is all the more remarkable because, on the surface, it appears to go nowhere and takes its own 'sweet time to get there. And yet every moment of its running time is absolutely compelling and stunningly rendered. With the exception of the almost impossible to make-out closing captions (which divulge crucial case-related information), it transfers impeccably to the small screen.'
It is a remarkable feat to make a thriller which starts off energetic and eventful and, as the capture of the killer becomes increasingly less likely and the crimes more infrequent and disconnected, it appositely loses some of that pace, with only Gyllenhaal’s maniacal, all-encompassing, obsession carrying it to its conclusion. This reverse pacing is not to its detriment. Instead of a high-octane thriller, Fincher has given us an oft melancholy piece; reflecting (though it never explicitly considers) the loss of life. Bonds are fleetingly forged then broken, comradeship and honour are largely absent and, like the Zodiac himself, everyone emerges as a rather lost and damaged soul.'
Robert Graysmith has nothing but praise for Jake's interpretation of his life-determining experience. He is asked in this interview if he had to walk Jake through who he was: 'I don't think you have to walk Jake through anything. I was just talking with Mark [Ruffalo] outside the hall. My best friend is Inspector Toschi. We go and have lemon meringue pie and french fries in San Francisco and we talk about the case maybe once every week. But Mark Ruffalo came back as [young] Dave Toschi. He's got the Toschi hair, the voice, and he's really annoying after a while because he follows you around. Jake, he just watches me. I never told a person on this Earth that when I was living in Japan, I was in the boy scouts. But by God, he got that. How he got that I don't know. He got that apparently I was very obsessed about this case. (laughs) I did not know this until I saw Jake's performance and then I thought maybe I was two-fisted like Mark Ruffalo. Everyone went, "No, Jake has got it."'
Jack's thousand rivers of feeling for Ennis
In the comments to the last post, Beckela mentioned an interview in which Jake talked about Ang's direction for Brokeback and that he had been told to find a thousand rivers of feeling for Ennis. Here is a link to the interview. Jake was discussing the direction that he and Heath received as they strove to breath life, love and realism into Brokeback's intimate scenes: 'I think that we have just a chemistry as friends and then I think that we kind of dove into the love scenes, and jumped out as fast as we can. These scenes were written in the script where there were paragraphs of screen direction telling you, as an actor, what your character was actually feeling. I remember reading things where it was like, how do you put into action when Jack looks at Ennis that 'a thousand rivers flow through him'? But it was a guide, we had a pretty incredible guide through it.'
One statement in particular interests me in this interview; Jake says that it is the women of the story who give extra dimension to Brokeback Mountain: 'And it's the women that we have interactions with that actually add and make it the complex story that it becomes. You see us relate and interact with them, and then you see us come back to each other and you see their struggles, and it just adds to the movie that otherwise, without them, would be two dimensional.'
It's pretty clear from Jake's words that he found Ang's direction mystifying at times: 'Well, it was really interesting, he was a man of very few words. He would say things like, 'Do that better','That was okay'. I remember very specifically, I said, 'How was that shot?' And he said, 'Very gay.' Yeah, I think emotionally that was the most I got out of Ang. He was so excited that it was very gay. But yeah, he has a sort of - I hesitate to say manipulation, but he recognizes the role of the actor and the personality of the actor. He plays with that relationship and knows that you're gonna want to please him. So he'll play back and forth on that, and then he recognizes how to do that within the character you're playing and what the character needs. There was a scene where I was herding 500 sheep on my own, it's not in the movie, down this hill at sunset with, like, a horse. I felt so proud of myself, one, that I was actually riding a horse, two, that I was herding 500 sheep. And there were four or five cameras picking it up, and I remember coming down the very end and Ang - I was so excited, and Ang said, 'Kind of sexy.' That was what he said to me. And I said, 'Let's do it again!' He was like, 'Let's move on.' So my performance, really, I'd describe as 'kind of sexy', just kind of. And then the next scene we moved onto, I was eager to please. And I think he likes to keep that type of relationship with his actors.'
Includes pictures from IHJ.
A little bird informs me it's Sass' birthday today - happy birthday, Sass *)
19 comments:
Thanks for stringing these wonderful comments together, WDW. The "thousand rivers" got me through a Saturday of having to work a bit, and now this ends the day perfectly.
Happy Birthday, Sass!
Hi Beckela! Sorry you had to work a bit today (I'm faced with that prospect for tomorrow :( ), but I'm very glad this helped a bit :)
And yes, happy Birthday Sass!
O clever Ang! "A thousand rivers run through him" -
Well, I guess Im not the only one who knows what THAT feels like - as in often when I gaze upon Jake.
And this lovely equivalent of sexual desire is so beautifully expressed by both men in Reunion Scene. Again to mention how beautifully the overwhelming passion was written in Annie's story and how stunningly portrayed in the film. Oh my! Wondering: how much Ang's direction had to do with this.
And Nadine - to add to your kudos for all who worked on BBMt, let's hear it for cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto!
Happy birthday, Sass!
diff'rent subject, diff'rent post.
I find it awkward that DVDS and films have diff'rent release schedules. This really hinders on-line conversation, doesn't it? I think that there are also slightly diff'rent versions of Directors Cut. Am I correct?
Hi positively pia - it's an interesting thought to wonder the extent to which Ang had conrol over all these factors that contributed to this wonderful film. Sometimes it just seems as though it was one of those incredibly lucky moments that can't be explained. I'm tired so I probably make no sense.
On to the different DVD/film release dates - it can seem awkward but I buy US films when they're released, seldom waiting for UK versions. To me, these new editions, whether they're for the US, UK, Europe or Rest of the world markets, seems immaterial as they are simply just that, different editions.
At the moment with Zodiac we have the US theatrical release with no extras, an imminent UK release with one extra, and the special edition (with documentaries and comentary) in the New Year. At the moment I'm also so happy to see interest mounting in the UK of this DVD.
Well, I had to work more than a bit! This is my weekend where I must work. I have no choice. But it is certainly nice to come home with wonderful indepth looks at two of my favorite Jake films. I am so glad that Zodiac is still getting the attention it deserves from the critics. Hopefully that will translate into successful sales of the DVD. I agree that Zodiac translate just fine to the small screen, but those people that finally give the DVD a look will be wishing they had made the effort to go see it when it was in theaters. I continue to champion Zodiac whenever I come across anyone who has not seen it. The reports back to me by those who have taken my recommendation have been nearly unanimous that it is a rich and fulfilling experience.
Thanks, as always for more Brokeback. I love that Jake credits the women in the film for fleshing the story out. I have never really understood why so many people dislike Alma. I felt badly for her from the beginning. Ennis said himself that none of it was her fault. She had every right to feel the way she did. Her family and the man that she thought she knew were taken from her by a rival that she could not compete with. As much as I felt Jack and Ennis possesed a love that could not be denied, it doesn't change the fact that everyone's lives were damaged irreversibly due to that chance meeting of two young men in 1963.
Just a thought. I know that many takes are often done of one particular scene and then the best parts edited together. I believe Jake has said the reunion kiss was done about 13 times. I feel for sure that the look on Jack's face when Ennis first grabs him and propells him backwards to the wall, flipping that hat off in one smooth motion before pouring four years of rememberance into THE kiss had to have been the first take. I can't imagine that exact look of stunned surprise being captured more than once!
Happy Birthday, Sass! :)
"A thousand Rivers of Feeling . . ." *sigh* that is just beautiful. I think Jake's performance was a little more than kinda sexy, more like very sexy, and Heath's too - but even more than that, the film is just beautiful in every way. I always love hearing about what it was like for the actors and others involved in the making this remarkable film. Rodrigo Pietro's cinematography took my breath away too, Pia, especially when they were bringing the sheep up the mountain, and setting up camp.
The making of Zodiac is opening up in much the same way - it's fascinating, and I love that Jake is so intuitive an actor that he could pick up on all of the subtleties of playing Robert Graysmith, without being told things explicitly. :) I did buy a copy of the DVD, and haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I think I'll treat myself this weekend. How sad to read that the survivors, which includes the investigators on the case, were so irreparably damaged for having crossed paths with the evil that was Zodiac.
Just when we think Jake can't get any more beautiful, he surprises us. Just when I think I've read WDW"S best-ever post, I find a new one that stuns me even more.
This is such a different take on Zodiac, and puts the purpose and intent of Fincher's making the film into sharper focus than ever before.
"Fincher makes it clear that his interest in the Zodiac is not for the murderer's success as a serial killer, calling him an 'underachiever', but because his fame is due to the pen being mightier than the sword. The Zodiac's compulsion and addiction was not about murder but about 'communicating with the Chronicle. That became far more gratifying and far more seductive than what he started out doing.' "
"Attention-seeker" - what cost attention!
"Jake Gyllenhaal has one of the most haunting faces in modern cinema; that of an overgrown child, at once both world-weathered and innocent. "
I love that!
And HAPPY BIRTHDAY SASS!!!
Forgot to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Sass!
August is a great month. My son just had his birthday also.
Great posting, as always, WDW!! Happy Birthday to Sass..
Pia..I often wondered too..how much of the love scenes were a product of Ang's direction..Annie's writing..or did Heath and Jake have much input. I have read so many interviews that I cannot remember if either actor talked about anything they, in particular, suggested to make the relationship(the love scenes especially) better or truer. Even with all the written and spoken direction, I cannot help but think the boys had some suggestions of their own....Michele
Hi! Everyone. Dreary morning here.
You've made me think of a couple of things, Anon 4:22, that Heath said in various interviews about BBM. In one, you might remember, he decided that Ennis would be afraid of bright light or direct sunlight? He kept his hat pulled down and kind of peeked out from under it. He mostly avoided direct eye contact with people. And in the SNIT scene, he said that it felt natural for Ennis to pull Jack over onto him, so that's what he did. Both actors said Ang gave very little direction scene by scene once they started shooting but that he spent a lot of time discussing their characters with them individually before hand. And yet these articles give me the impression that the shooting script was pretty detailed as well. I just feel certain there were many details and small gestures, etc. that both actors brought to their characters that helped make their performance so authentic. All I know is they were absolutely perfect in those roles and with each other. Classics.
Hi everyone - a dreary day in Blighty - a perfect excuse for putting my feet up and catching up on some reading.
Hi Dani - thanks for that great comment. I really do agree that the reunion kiss has a first take quality to it. And it's good to hear you're continuing to champion Zodiac. I just love this film and I'm going to watch it again later today.
Hey Marina - oh yes, jake and Heath are so sexy in BBM. I know we go on about the love and the the emotion but Jake in those jeans... sorry to lower the tone but just had to say it. The cinematography is great too and that scene where they climb the mountain with the sheep is definitely one of myfavourites, all matched with the music during that scene. I hope you get to see the Zodiac DVD this weekend :D
Thanks Incognita! I am glad you like the post :) I hadn't thought about Zodiac in quite this way before either and it just shows how immersed Fincher was. A tragedy all round for everyone and he captured that without anything sensationalist.
Hi Michele - I think that Jake and Heath did input their own feelings into those love scenes. Ang has said how he discussed the scenes with them in rehearsal and that Jake in particular just gave everything and added feeling which Ang hadn't expected.
Moning Bobbyanna - it's dreary here too :/ I like that insight into Ennis. He so seldom takes that hat off and when he does the emotion comes out. I think youre right, there is so much in the little gestures.
Have a great Sunday everyone :)
Ah, yes, Prieto's cinematography -- simply sublime. The impact of the film, in spite of the great work of everyone else involved as well, would have been greatly diminished without his gorgeous shots.
It is amazing to me how all the elements -- the work of so many talented individuals -- come together to complete this masterpiece. It is unlike anything I have ever experienced -- "experience" being the only word that approaches describing "watching" BBM.
Hi Beckela - thanks for commenting. jake and Heath are so good in this movie sometimes we forget the other people who came together so fortuitously to make BBM what it is. The cinematography was beautiful.
With just a little spare time before I dash off to work,I must start with a much belated Happy Birthday to Sass!
Also, in response to Pia's reminder, yes I should have given individual credit to Rodrigo Prieto rather than just lumping him in with the rest of the crew,because his cinematography, whether in the grand sweep of the mountains or the close-up intimacy of so many pivotal scenes was another essential ingredient in making "Brokeback" the masterpiece it is.
I'll return to "Brokeback" shortly (always like coming home) but I must say how the articles you included on "Zodiac", WDW, provided some great insights into the film,the real life story and to Jake as an actor.
What greater compliment could there be for Jake that the man whom he was portraying, and others who know Graysmith,have said that Jake totally nailed the performance, the obsession, Robert's foibles and eccentricities.
"I don't think you have to walk Jake through anything" - a testament to his natural intuitive intelligence, enabling him to pick up facets of the Graysmith persona and assimilate them, simply by watching, impercebtibly, almost by osmosis.
I was SO relieved that I loved this film because pre-publicity had suggested that Fincher's own obsessive approach had led to countless takes and reshoots which at times had driven the likes of Jake and the fabulous RDJ to distraction. Any fears that the film might be boring and over-analytical were soon dispelled and I found it genuinely gripping as a whole, not just because of Jake's subtle and endearing performance (he does misfits so well, is there something of the "not sure quite where I belong yet" in his psyche?).
I remember my mate and I looking at each other wide eyed and mouthing "no, don't go down the cellar!"our fists clenched worried for the safety of Jake's Graysmith, despite the fact that we knew he survives to this day and didn't get bludgeoned to death in the basement, that's how drawn in we'd been.
It is indeed so very sad that so many people, not just the murder victims and their loved ones,had their lives blighted by being embroiled in the Zodiac case, but I found it a little heartening that Toschi and Graysmith still find friendship and a sounding board in each other all these years later.
Back to "Brokeback" and I feel Jake makes a very valid point when he says that the women in BBM are vital, they represent the "normal life" which Jack and Ennis felt, to varying degrees, hemmed in by and compelled to follow. The women of Brokeback were the epitome of the accepted female roles in society at the time and personnify the traditions and prejudices which were to prove tragic and insurmountable barriers to embracing and proclaiming the love of their lives. The really sad thing is that, as far as we may have progressed, there are still many people, men and women, who are living a lie with respect to those they really love and desire,committing themselves to marriages because it is the "easier" conventional route. We have come a long way, but we have a long way to go.
I hadn't read before Heath's comments as to the varying approaches of the experienced actors playing Jack's parents, his"mother" warm and maternal from the start towards Heath,the "father"cold and distant. Surely,these wise old birds helped to bring out such a touching, heart-breaking performance from Heath in he agonising scenes at the Twists' sad little home.
And what greater contrast could there be between Fincher's "control-freak" reputation and the "laissez-faire, coax out the performance" approach adopted by Ang Lee. I wonder if his thinking is that by not giving too much away as to whether of not he is satisfied with a given scene, or the delivery of a line, he thereby subtly movtivates the actors to delve deep within themselves to find whatever they can to please this, as Jake described him, "benevolent" director.
Indeed, there may have been many written directions and clues for Jake and Heath to work from in order to dredge up those remarkable performances, but I still feel that both of them were to largely driven by instinct and real emotion, truly submerging themselves in the hearts and souls of Jack and Ennis,to give the most tender, sensual,and achingly beautiful performances.
There is so much to read and so little time; I'll be back. Thanks to everyone for all my happy birthday wishes. I had a wonderful day:)
sass
Oh, I'm so late to this one!
I adore Ang. If I had any acting talent, I would love to be directed by him. Those heart-breaking two-word summaries. Perfect.
Nadine - thank you for that wonderful long and very thoughtful comment. It is a great testament to Jake that Graysmith believed in Jake's portrayal so absolutely, and recognised himself. What greater compliment can there be than that?
I've always enjoyed procedural thrillers so I knew I would like this one, but I was blown away by the complexity and skill of it. That bit in the cellar scared the life out of me too - Jake in Peril - red alert! As you say, it really is good to learnt that Graysmith and Toschi have remained such good friends, a positive to come from this sadness.
That really is a beautiful description of Jake and Heath's responses and instincts filing Brokeback. I think they both found it - and Ang - difficult but the approach clearly worked as look at what we were given. The acting in that scene with Jack's parents was just superb, unfortunately it's the scene I'm able to watch the least, which is no little compliment to the actors who just put us in that world - that barren house with the graveyard outside. I can barely manage to think of it.
Sass - I'm so glad you had a good birthday :)
Hi Anouska - I think I'd probably do better myself with the discipline of the Fincher approach (being so scatty myself) but Ang inspires such great things. Fincher could never have done Brokeback IMO.
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