Tuesday 29 January 2008

Two years ago today - Ennis Del Mar and the Joker - celebrated

Many of us remember the day that we first saw Brokeback Mountain - when an event, in whatever form, changes or alters your life in someway, it's hard to forget. Today is my second anniversary. I remember celebrating the date last year - I could never have imagined that, in 2008, 29 January would coincide with the first week's anniversary of Heath's death. But it has, and so, in remembering and celebrating the glorious fallout that Brokeback Mountain showered on my life (hopefully never to be undone), this time I am also remembering and cherishing its two men.


Brokeback Mountain's 'classic' status has perhaps been sealed, even for those still in doubt, by the tragedy of last Tuesday. There is also a good possibility that Heath's death will tempt new audiences to see this film and another gang of Brokies will measure their lives against Jack's dream in Brokeback, find them wanting, and change them. We have a lot to thank Heath for, and not just Heath, Jake too. And all those involved with Brokeback Mountain, at every level.


I have a real sense of inadequacy when it comes to expressing what Brokeback Mountain means to me. So better to look at an essay or elegy such as this, which, written in the aftermath of Heath's loss, bears witness to the achievement of Heath, Jake and Ang in creating this 'imperishable' masterpiece. Here are some quotes that spoke to me.

'In their comments about the actor, some, seeking to express their sense of loss, have said that it's especially sad because he was at the start of what promised to be a great career. I understand what they mean, but we should recognize that, because of his commitment to his art, Heath Ledger already had attained greatness.'


'While I'm unable to aspire to poetry, I can appreciate and attempt to describe the beauty of what Heath Ledger did in Brokeback Mountain. His performance is poetry enough. I think it's appropriate to honor the man who did so much to make the film so powerful with an elegy recognizing and celebrating what he achieved.'

'The sensitivity and beauty with which Ledger and Gyllenhaal present the men is deeply moving; Gyllenhaal gently embraces and reassures Ledger, who gradually relaxes and embraces him, showing not merely the sexual desire, but more importantly the deep need to be close to another man which motivates both men. At least for those with eyes to see and hearts to feel, the scene is as beautiful and moving as any depicting a man and a woman.'


'His incredible ability in projecting Ennis's raw rage culminates in the awful final argument with Jack, when Ennis threatens to kill the man he loves for needing sexual involvement with other men, since Ennis's fear and shame have caused him to refuse to accept Jack's invitation to live together. It's frightening, especially in light of Ledger's death, to think of the cost such acting must have exacted. I'm fortunate, in my teaching, to be able to teach the astonishing poetry of Emily Dickinson; Ledger's acting spontaneously brings to mind the opening line of one of her most searingly confessional poems, in which she demands, "Dare you see a Soul at the White Heat?" In Ledger's performance as Ennis, we do. Though I want to resist involvement in speculation about the causes of his death, it's impossible not to have noted that some have speculated that he put so much into preparing for and incarnating himself in every role he took on that it may have led to impossible stress, sleeplessness, and dependence on medicines. I have no idea whether this is correct, but it's possible to think it, given the intensity with which Ledger gave himself over to representing the torment of Ennis del Mar.'

This elegy was written by Eric Patterson, an associate professor of American studies and American literature at Hobart and William Smith Colleges. 'He is the author of a newly published book On Brokeback Mountain: Meditations about Masculinity, Fear, and Love in the Story and the Film.' This title is available for Europeans here.


Philip French's tribute for Heath in Sunday's Observer newspaper in the UK culminated with: 'Ledger inhabits his character to an overwhelming degree as he charts Ennis's painful emotional progress over two decades. The visit to the home of his dead lover's parents, where he silently inspects Jack's old bedroom, is among the most poignant, delicately understated sequences in movie history.' Without doubt, this is the most painful scene that I have ever seen in any film, and I doubt that will change through my life. It's good to see it recognised here.


It's a sad state of affairs, but it's true, that many people, especially men, maybe even our men, have yet to see Brokeback Mountain, put off by its tabloid tag as the 'gay cowboy movie'. This is what was addressed in Tony Parson's tribute in the UK's Mirror newspaper: 'I have an amazing number of mates who have never seen Brokeback Mountain because it's "that movie about two gay cowboys". What they are missing is an almost perfect storm of talent. Brokeback Mountain was directed by the great Ang Lee from a classic short story by Annie Proulx. It has an Oscar-winning screenplay by Diana Ossana and Larry McMurtry (a great novelist himself and author of The Last Picture Show), and Jake Gyllenhaal will never be better than he was as rodeo cowboy Jack Twist.'


'Most of all, what my friends are missing is the portrayal of ranch hand Ennis Del Mar by Heath Ledger. A performance that ranks up there with Al Pacino in the first Godfather film, Robert de Niro in the second Godfather, Brando when he was young and thin, Montgomery Clift in From Here To Eternity, and James Dean in the three films he made before his early death. Heath Ledger truly was as good as that, and nobody who has seen Brokeback Mountain could ever doubt it. Heath Ledger had the kind of talent that only comes along once every 20 years and his death is a horrible waste.'


Brokeback Mountain is a film you rarely see the like of but Heath had more to offer us. We were all looking forward to the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight, many of us had some red carpet expectations as well. By the time The Dark Knight is released - in July - we will no doubt be ready to celebrate Heath's portrayal of this iconic figure. The film's director Christopher Nolan doesn't have the luxury of the time. He is currently working on his film in post-production and has to cope with the raw pain of seeing Heath on film everyday.

Here is part of Chris' tribute to Heath in Newsweek: 'One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma—as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.'


'Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.'

'When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film—sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.'


I'd been looking forward to my anniversary Brokeback Mountain post - I would never have dreamed... Includes pictures from IHJ and AP.

54 comments:

Anonymous said...

wow WDW what a touching tribute. I read Chris Nolans words, It must be so hard for him to edit the movie. I bet it will be hard for him to figure out what scenes to keep and what to discard because these images are the last ones of Heath on screen.

But I think Heath wants us all to move on in our own way and TDK will be a wonderful tribute to him. I was so psyched to see this movie after I saw the trailer. I thought "finally Heath will be vindicated to all those naysayers who thought he couldn't handle the joker.

I was looking forward to him doing interviews and promos, junkets, film festivals. unfortunately that will never be

BUT we still can remember him for what he gave us. And I will always remember him for portraying Ennis Del Mar. And perhaps more people will want to discover what a wonderful performance Heath did as Ennis

Trekfan

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Trekfan, thanks, this was my own poor attempt at a tribute before, as you say, tying to 'move on in our own way'.

With the Joker to come and Ennis Del Mar for people to rediscover, Heath will be with us for a long time.

Anonymous said...

What a beautiful, beautiful tribute to Heath, Jake and Brokeback Mountain. That's all I can say right now. I'm sad beyond measure that he is gone. I'll be fine I'm sure, but I will never forget what Heath gave to us, in his role as Ennis in Brokeback Mountain. I do want to read the Eric Patterson book.

Thanks for having this forum for us to come to during this awful time. :'(

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Bertie, thanks. I'm fully conscious that this was even more of a self-indulgent post than normal tonight so thanks for reading it.

When I think about a week ago tonight at this minute.

Thanks for coming here, it means a great deal.

Anonymous said...

WDW you have done it again. These tributes are really beautiful. I have been having a hard time myself with all this. I can't believe it is a week already. My heart still hurts. I can't imagine what Michelle and Jake and Heath's family are going thru. The tributes to Heath all around have been nothing short of amazing. From DDL and his beautiful tribute at the SAGs to Christopher Nolan and these writers on BBM.

I will never forget when I first saw BBM. Blew me away with how incredible it all was. From the brilliant acting of Heath and Jake, to the direction, cinematography and the haunting score. It was really as if the short story came to life. Heath was Ennis and Jake was Jack. That was it for me. Heartbreakingly beautiful and I will hold those memories to comfort me. I hope it is a comfort to all of you (((hugs all))). I have seen a lot of Heath's movies, 10 Things..., Monster's Ball, The Patriot, BBM, Candy and INT. I still have to see the others.

Really nice that the UK WDWers continue to get together. Keep each other close.

Again, I have been doing it a lot lately but hugs can heal. (((hugs all))).

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Get Real, thanks for that beautiful comment. I was listing Heath's films that I'd seen earlier and, for some reason, I'd forgotten The Patriot. I shouldn't have, I really loved that.

All these things are a comfort - and the hugs don't hurt either ((((Get Real))))

Anonymous said...

This is your BBMt anniversary, Kate! an historic occassion, for sure, and Im not kidding. Im not sure of the date that I first saw the film, with two friends, who went on and on, afterwards about a French film about lesbians - whereas I was totally dumbfounded and couldnt wait to see BBMt again, on my own, which I did, and did and did.

But today Jan 29 (it is, isnt it?) is the day I ventured to post a comment on the DCForum and was, to my astonishment and delight, greeted as a "fellow fruit fly" - and now, looking back, the entire conversation seems bizarre, simplistic, and naive. Little did I know what I was getting into!

JeeZe!

Tonight, still grieving Heath's death in sorta Shakeparean mode

"why should a dog, a horse, a rat
have life, and thou no breath at all. . . " (Lear, poor sod)

I'm reminded that the tragedy of BBMt the story and also the film was not Jack Twist's death, but Ennis' inability to face that it was a man he loved. In other words, as Annie keeps sayin', its about homophobia. Ennis sayd to Jack, "all those things that I dont know would get you killed if I should come to know them. . ."

Thus it is Ennis that kills the one he loves.

And I think of the tragic figure of Candy that Heath played so well.

Heath's gifts and willigness to take on the human condition -

DDL does has this gift, also, and speaks eloquently about it - I have enjoying seeing his interviews.

As I enjoyed interviews with HL. the intellgence, gift, integrity, etcetc. what it means to be human.

DDL seemes, in interviews, speaking about his creative process, to have a better grasp on how to take care of himself and his high gifts = somebody or bodies maybe taught him how to do this. Jake seems to do a good job.

We love our actors, as we love our teachers. It's a terrific loss.

Christie said...

That was a truly beautiful post, WDW, and it was clear that it was hard to do. But you did BBM and Heath proud in this post, you really did. It's a hard night tonight, knowing what I was doing and how I was feeling at this very moment a week ago, can hardly get my head around it.

It's clear that BBM changed your life, WDW. It changed mine too. And reading the wonderful tributes to Heath's performance, just warms my heart. The long and eloquent article by Eric Patterson brought tears to my eyes, as did Tony Parson's heartfelt plea to those who are scared of watching the film because of the "gay cowboy movie" tag. What an exquisite joy they are all missing. Sometimes I want to shout from the rooftops at what this film means to me.

Don't know what else to say. Trying really hard not to think on what we had lost last week, it breaks my heart. Thank you for this post, it meant a lot.

Anonymous said...

you're being modest about your tribute, I think it's very touching and heartfelt.

my Brokeback anniversary is 3rd January. And yes, I still have that movie ticket. I went alone for a 8pm showing in the West End, walked into a 95% full house, it was rainy Tuesday night.

like Tony Parsons said, I feel sorry for people who haven't seen this movie because "it's about gay cowboys", and I feel sorry for people who've seen it but failed to acknowledge the significance of it, blinded by whatever preconception they have in their mind.

Ennis in Jack's old room... my heart still squeezed tight when Ennis first touched the sleeve of Jack's shirt, I've looked at Heath's face closely on the scene... his face, little movement of his muscle, everything is just... perfect.

it's been awhile since I've talked about BBM like the obsessed that I am.. I usually have to refrain myself from doing so in front of other people. What a safe place you're providing us.

I am meeting some brokies from another forum tomorrow evening... a toast to heath is in order.

Anonymous said...

I find it very comforting to read and re-read things that Christopher Nolan, Todd Haynes and others are saying about him. He deserves every single tribute and then some.

I hope Michelle and his family will put all of these wonderful pieces in a scrapbook for Matilda. So she can not only enjoy her beautiful father's work, but she can realize how much he was appreciated and loved, and how deeply we all feel this loss.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Pia, I can't believe it's two years - it's so vivid in my mind. Not the run up to seeing it but the film itself and then sitting in my car wondering how on earth I could drive home, but finally being able to while listening to the blues. So much has changed in the last two years and all for the better, except for this one terrible thing.

Chistie, thank you. I think this was the hardest post I've ever written, because I always knew I would do a BBM post today, just didn't want it to be this post. I think we all feel evangelical about this film because we know its power for good. I'm also trying really hard not to think too much tonight, too.

Winterbird, you will always be able to talk about BBM here, as shall I, till I'm blue in the face if necessary! Have a wonderful time tomorrow evening and give the Brokies my love.

Bobbyanna, that would be a wonderful gift for Matilda. To have her father captured on film for her, to watch for the whole of her life, is an amazing thing.

Anonymous said...

Very touching tribute to Heath and his life in Brooklyn

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Get Real, I love that, thanks so much for the link - it's turned me to mush though.

Anonymous said...

WDW, very beautiful post, worthy of all its subjects. Thanks.*

Anonymous said...

I loved this, Get Real!

As I love Jake with skateboard or in the public basketball courts of Gr Village -

twistedlogic said...

(((WDW))) What a gorgeous post.Thank you:) Any Brokeback post is always emotional, but under the current circumstances it's just overwhelming. I don't know what to say...And Lord knows I've said plentyabout BBM over the 21 months since I first saw it, but that's the thing about BBM. Its impact is so strong that the feelings it generates never leave you, and something as simple as hearing the first notes of the soundtrack, or seeing a pic from the film brings it all flooding back.

Brokeback Mountain's 'classic' status has perhaps been sealed, even for those still in doubt, by the tragedy of last Tuesday.

This is so true and I realised that when I watched some of the film the other night. Not that I ever had any doubt at all that Brokeback is a classic, but after Tuesday I was worried that I wouldn't be able towatch it again, that losing Jack on the screen and losing Heath off it would be to much to bear. But it had the opposite effect, in that I actually was able to put Heath's passing out of my mind and it was just those two beautiful boys together.What will happen when I find the courage to watch the whole movie may be adifferent story but I got a feeling that BBM is so powerful, so beautiful and so timeless that nothing can ever change what it means to me and what I feel for it.It stands alone and nothing can touch it. I never saw Jake and Heath as themselves in BBM before, and I don't now. What those boys did in that film transcends eveything, even Heath's tragic loss(I can't say the "d" word:( ).

And Heath...I'm still having mood swings about it,from peaceful acceptance and gratitude for all he gave us, to intense anger that he's not here to give us (nd more importantly his loved ones) more, and everything else in between.

Those tributes were very well chosen and so moving, all from different angles but all sharing the same appreciation,love and respect for Heath and his talent.
It's too soon for me to attempt to watch any of his films in public, so I'm going to wait until I'm Not There is out on DVD, but come july I'm going to do something I've never done before and I'm going to pay money to go and see a Batman movie, to pay tribute to Heath. I'm so angry wth myself for not making more of an effort to see more of his films before, but I'm going to try to make it up to him with TDK

I was looking through some of the old posts here earlier, that included Heath and I had to smile at the way we teased him about his Venice outfit (although there was an underlying unease and concern about him) and the intrigue of "Sweatergate" (and if that really was Heath's, how I bet Jake treasures it now:( ). It was so sad though to read about him in the present tense. But we had fun, and no-one can take that away from us, or the brilliant work he left for us to enjoy, and most of all the friendships we've all made through all the different communities. That to me is the very best thing about "the glorious fallout that Brokeback Mountain showered on my life" (wonderfully put, WDW) and I can only thank everyone involved in the film forever from the bottom of my heart, especially Jake, Heath, and all of you here and elsewhere.And more than anyone, WDW, who I'm so grateful to for so much. For the brilliance of this site,for putting so much time, dedication and love into it, for allowing me to laugh,cry,rant and just ramble on in general, for reminding me of what's important when I've needed it, and most of all, for being someone I'm proud to call a friend.Thank you, hun,always.

I have to add special thanks to (((Anouska))) and (((WDW))) for the great pleasure of their company today, and for cheering me up so much with some high class entertainment;)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Oh TL, thank you so much! I don't know what to say! Without doubt one of the very best things I've got out of this site over the last 10 months is your friendship and knowing you're there at the end of the phone. I'm going to come back and answer you properly when I've had a drink - I'm overwhelmed.

Anonymous said...

Nothing like a bit of panto when times are tough, TL ;)

Nite both *

twistedlogic said...

Thanks for that link Get Real, and all of you for all your comments. I'm welling up again:(

Anonymous said...

I'm here late tonight,WDW,so I'm going to come back after work tomorrow so I can give this long post my full attention. I know it's going to make me very emotional,the Brokeback and Joker photos are already choking me up...and at midnight it's a week since I heard.Off to try to sleep. Goodnight Heath,goodnight everyone,God bless

twistedlogic said...

And now I'm in floods (((WDW))). and (((Anouska))) Yep, great panto, who needs some has been off East Enders or some never was off Big Brother when we've got you two:) But who will play Prince Charming? ;)

Anonymous said...

"Nothing like a bit of panto when times are tough, TL ;)"

Come on, y'all, tell us more - keeping each other entertained and sane, you're keeping us sane. anyway, speaking for myself. . .

twistedlogic said...

Pia, it's hard to explain. Anouska and WDW are just such lovely and funny ladies and they both just made me laugh so much today, which after the past week, is something I (and all of us, I'm sure) really needed.

(((Nadine)))

Wet Dark and Wild said...

I've got a G&T now and you lot have all done me so much good tonight. I cried so much last night and tonight could have been the same and there have been tears but I just feel like I need to mark Heath's passing tonight with something more than tears, like with our friendship for instance.

Although, whichever of TL and Anouska saw fit today to give me yet another cold is for it! I am so bunged up!

TL that was an amazing comment and I'm gonna treasure it. I'm glad you saw some of BBM. I know I also said that I would never see it again but I did a couple of nights later and it made me feel so good. It reminded me of why we love Heath so much, as if we needed reminding.

I've never seen a Batman movie but rest assured I'm seeing this one and it's going to be with love for Heath in my heart. Maybe some of us can see it together? And maybe others of you elsewhere in the world can see it together too?

I feel guilt for not appreciating Heath enough and you can rest assured I'm going to make sure I never do that with Jake. There are lessons to learn.

The friendships BBM has brought us, through all the various communities, which all can cross over and enrich each other - well, it's a gift given to us by Jake and Heath. Those two attract some damn nice people!

On a personal note, TL, you've made doing this site a lot easier than it could have been and I'm grateful. Anouska and I are always happy to entertain - athough today we were without moderator Ruby keeping us in check!

I see Anouska's comparing me to the back end of a panto horse again...

Nadine, I hope you sleep well. It's so hard tonight. I find it strange that tonight, a week exactly, I want to smile and chat about Heath and Jake. The ups and downs...

Hey Pia. Anouska and I can bicker, argue and tease for Britain - we're even better at it when we have wine and chips. You'll have to come on over here and find out for yourself!

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Oooh thanks TL - you're not so bad yourself :) And you brought chocolate...

Anonymous said...

well, its been a hard day and Im going to bed, too.

thanks everypeeps for makikng it better.

g'nite all g'nite Heath, and thanks alot, mate, for breakin' our hearts.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Night, Pia. Take care xx

twistedlogic said...

Er... I think that might have been me to blame for the cold, WDW. Sorry! that's a brilliant idea about getting together to see TDK, sign me up!

Thanks again for everything WDW, and all of you. It's been a terrrible week for all of us but it would have been so much worse if we didn't all have each other. Sadly, I don't think these feelings are going to goaway any time soon, but we'll get through it together and I'm taking strength from knowning that.
I'm feeling a lot happier tonight though,and I'm off now to watch some BBM, and send up a prayer of thanks for everything it's given me. Goodnight everyone, and thank you xx

Wet Dark and Wild said...

TL, I'm feeling much happier than I thought I would tonight too and it's good to know we can help each other as the days and weeks, months go by. I'm not going anyhere and I trust you're not either!

I have to go to get off to sleep now - enjoy the time on the mountain.

Thanks for the cold btw...! I've had three in the last two months - I've never having a flu vaccine again.

BirdGirl said...

I'm sick too WDW. I hope you feel better soon. :)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Morning everyone - thanks for keeping me company yesterday evening.

Bird Girl, sorry you're sick - feel better soon. I'm hoping a big bowl of steaming porridge will do me some good.

Have a good day.

Iggy said...

Wow. That was some post WDW. It was emotional and beautiful and I thank you for it.

Anonymous said...

Morning everyone...

I am feeling sombre today... was wearing a stripey tee to bed last night, my little gesture to remember heath.

i came across another tribute from a professor of history, it shows how much heath has affected everyone, even common, non ardent fans. The blogger also mentions that Jake is working with World Can't Wait, I didn't know that... that's a very left-wing non-profit organisation, very anti-Bush (of course)...

and to sadder news, some conman has been posing at Heath's father to speak to the media and some celebrities... :(

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi everyone - you can probably hear me sneezing from where you are.

Thank you so much, Rosie, for that. The post is one of the most personal ones I've written.

Winterbird, I hope you're OK. Your stripey gesture is lovely and I know a lot of people did a similar thing. Thanks very much for the link, very interesting.

I read that about the imposter, absolutely disgusting.

I hope everyone has a good afternoon/morning.

Anonymous said...

People Magazine says Jake is taking Heath's death very hard. Oh, Jake. :(

Also have to thank you all for the conversation on hear last night. I didn't comment but it was really touching to read what you all had to say. We need to be a support for each other now.

Feel better, WDW. *sending you some hot soup and tea*

Anonymous said...

thanks get real... that article also mentioned that before the tragic news, Jake jokingly put up Heath's picture in his movie's prison cell... imagine if we learn about this under a different circumstance, it would have been such a sweet moment. *sighs*

{{{{Jake}}}}

twistedlogic said...

(((WDW))) I feel so bad about your cold:( Get better soon - remember the usual home made cure: plenty of fluids and plenty of Jake;)

Thanks for the lins Winterbird and Get Real:) That DV article is spot on, sums up perfectly what so many of us feel. It felt especially good as I read an article in a paper earlier questioning why so many people who never met Heath are so grief stricken and it was pretty dismissive of that grief. Not that we need anyone to validate what we're feeling but it's good to know some people dounderstand.

And that story about Jake putting Heath's pic up is the sort of thing that would have had me howling with laughter if I'd read it before last Tuesday:( (((Jake))) Hopefully he can find comfort in remembering the good times he shared with Heath.

Anonymous said...

Towleroad is reporting the same thing, but they have a picture of Jake on the set of Brothers that I haven't seen before... there's a tattoo on his neck. I haven't seen this before.

Anonymous said...

hey darlin's.

hope the sickies are eating their porridge and taking their pills.

a coupla questions:

number one: does the People story about Jake posting picture of HL in prison cell on Brothers set imply he's playing the younger brother as gay?

number two: is People reliable source or fanfic?

paulh said...

Those links are fantastic, WDW.
I notice that most of the people who have submitted reminiscences of Heath to the media have been film directors who have worked with Heath (Columbus, Gibson, etc.), or family members. The exceptions were fellow actors who worked with him recently (Cate Blanchett) or actors who never met Heath, but have been moved to dedicated their awards to him (Daniel Day Lewis).

I guess a fair number of people have wondered why Jake has not joined their ranks. Jake seems to be a very private man with emotional subjects, and bereavement is very emotional.
I loved the idea of Jake's character in "Brothers" putting up a picture in his jail cell. Is that going to be seen in the final movie version?

PIA, if you are uncomfortable being a "Fellow fruit fly," perhaps you could choose loftier tag like Drosophila Melanagaster (which is the same thing, but in Latin. ;-) )

Anonymous said...

never said I was uncomfortable being a "fruitfly", Paul. I was delighted and also felt honored. Had never heard the term before. But it took me a long time to understand what that really meant, in terms of my own life, background, and friendships - and that my relationships were much more complicated and profound. As are all of ours.

Please do not misread me.

Anonymous said...

I think Jake was making a joke on set when he pulled out Heath's picture... I don't really think they will make it into the film. He's known to be rather goofy and cracking jokes all the time on film set. well... all before tragedy strikes...

Jake is playing the younger brother in the film and apparently the character will have a love-triangle with his elder brother's wife. So no, I assume the character is not gay.

Is People reliable? I don't know... i've learned to take everything I read in the media with a grain of salt...

Hope the porridge is working, WDW...

Anonymous said...

my question was not at all meant to be provocative, if it seems so. but the quote from People was provocative, esp. in view of the volatile emotions around the new focus upon BBMt the film and public attitudes and so forth and so on.

as for how an actor internalizes the character he is playing - we dont know that. the character he's playing in Brotheres and his RL right now are oddly similar.

if it's s subject from which we should shy away, here, so be it. gimme a pie chart. I love pie charts.

twistedlogic said...

As I understand it (and I could well be wrong cos I don't live in the US and I've never read People) People is a celeb-friendly publication and whatever goes in there has been vetted, approved and,in some cases, planted by the person in question's PR. But like I said, I could be wrong. In any case, like Winterbird, I tend to take everything I read in the media with a pinch of salt. I don't need anyone, not even Jake himself, to tell me he's devastated about losing Heath, and the pic story sounds like the sort of thing Jake would do, and it made me smile, so I'm going to choose to believe it.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with Winterbird and TL. I take all these stories with a grain of salt. But I could not help but be sad because I am sure if it is true or not Jake is really in pain and in grief over Heath. (((Jake))) I really wish people would leave him alone about making a statement. Why can't people just let Jake have his privacy and say something when he is ready. A

Anonymous said...

Winterbird, that picture of Jake with the tattoo was from December. You can see the rest of the pics at IHJ.

agent_krycek said...

number one: does the People story about Jake posting picture of HL in prison cell on Brothers set imply he's playing the younger brother as gay?

I've seen the original Brothers, and no, the character isn't gay, I just think it's Jake goofing around. Something about the People story rang fairly true, but it's all read with a pinch of salt as well.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Pia... i was in no-internet-land for a good part of December, probably why i missed it.

Anonymous said...

oops.. I mean thanks get real... :)

(am going to shut up and go meet some brokies - see you all later)

final hug to {{Jake}}... like TL, I don't need People to tell me that he's mourning.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Agent K - Ive seen the Danish Bros which I think a very fine film and I hope Jim Sheridan honors its story and intention.

I was being somewhat coy in my comments about the People Mag story I guess. I doubt that Jake is internalizing the character as gay, but Im not sure I think the joke is that funny

And Im uncomfortable with how popular media tweaks the public's interest in cause of Heath's death (drug related?) and Jake sexuality - but its gonna go on and on and on unto eternity, I suppose. Yuck.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi everyone, come home early, sick and in some serious need of whiskey, Jake, being wrapped in cotton wool, Jake, having some soup, Jake, some TLC and Jake - not necessarily in that order. Im also out of tissues so it could get messy.

Interesting conversation going on about the veracity or othrwise of the People article. Of course we don't know, and this is only my opinion which doesn't count for much, but I view this as a kind of semi-official statement - as in 'we know some people are demanding Jake makes a statement, he's not up to it, he's being cared for on set, his friendship with Heath was strong and ongoing, he's being given all the time off he needs, now back off and leave Jake alone.' I'm probably totally wrong but that's how it reads to me. I also don't think there's any kind of anti-gay agenda or anything else like that - we know how Jake goofs around on set, he's famous for it. He likes to make others laugh and this seems to have done just that. I'm worn out now....

Winterbird, I hope you have a lovely time with the Brokies and give them my love if I know any of 'em, or even if I don't. And I've posted that pic of Jake on the Brothers set on WDW a ton of times!! I may post one again, jut for you, and because I love Jake with a tat.

Maybe, it's cos I've got a fever and I can't see for runny eyes, but I don't get all this fruitfly stuff. But if we're talking about animals, I saw a rat at the tube station this evening.

Hugs to everyone here! Off to pour some red stuff, it's kind of a shame because it's a good wine and I can't taste a thing. Love to you all.

twistedlogic said...

(((WDW))) So sorry you're not well:( Glad you're home now though and hope you feel better soon. I agree with your take on the People article,btw.

Yuck at seeing a rat on the tube! I saw a gorgeous new born baby panda on the news earlier, really made me smile:)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hey TL, thanks! I seem to get a cold every fortnight, I blame it on my long commute. I thought you were about to say you saw a baby panda on the tube?! Much better than the whiskery fella I saw staring up at me.

Anonymous said...

(((WDW))) sorry you are sick, hon. Take care and just relax now that you are cozy at home. And I totally agree with you re: Jake/People Mag article.