I was rather intrigued today by an article in the Guardian, which examined the place of genius in the movies. This was prompted by the announcement that Leo DiCaprio is to 'take the role of Nolan Bushnell, creator of pioneering computer game firm Atari in a movie to be called, surprisingly, Atari.' This leads on to the discussion of whether the genius is normally portrayed by film makers as a geek - or, whether a geek is normally cast in the role of the genius.
So, can you have a sexy geek? Can you have a sexy genius? Can you have a sexy geek playing the role of a non-sexy genius? Or is it all an act and the sexy geek actor is, in fact, not a geek but just a sexy actor? You won't be surprised to hear that the Guardian article makes mention of someone who has, throughout his career, played both geeks and geniuses and may be regarded by some members of the theatre audience as a geek - Jake Gyllenhaal. Is it possible that 'geek' may be a term used in place of 'interesting' or 'unusual'?
The Guardian suggests that the most successful geeks in movies are those who combine clear evidence of brains with the 'troubled look from a swoonsome male' and goes on to say 'Without this twist Jake Gyllenhaal might never have had a career. Released the same year as A Beautiful Mind, Donnie Darko cast Gyllenhaal as someone who was both blessed with a metaphysical potency and unable to take his eyes off his shoes. Oh, and he looked awfully handsome too, in his slovenly way. Since then, Gyllenhaal has produced a variation on this performance in the majority of his movies, albeit playing characters with varying levels of smarts. From the vulnerable maths student of Proof to the sensitive squaddie of Jarhead via the instinctual, but unusual, cartoonist-detective of Zodiac, he's done em all.'
Earlier this year, the Telgraph suggested that the new brand of movie hero actors are geeks. The actors of a certain age - Harrison Ford, Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson etc - may now be superceded by actors who are, potentially, geeks. This should not be surprising because numerous superheroes themselves have a geeky streak the size of a planet, they just haven't always been played that way. But now we live in a post-Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man world. In this world we can have Jake Gyllenhaal as the Prince of Persia and John Cusack in Roland Emmerich's 2012.
Whether or not Jake is regarded by some filmfans as a geek, in his youth, not very long ago, he played roles that showed smart kids could escape from a grim reality. In October Sky, Jake's Homer Hickam looked to the heavens and used science to escape the pit. However, Donnie Darko had a conception of the world that was too intense for survival - he knew too much. More down to earth was Hal, the drumming, reasonably athletic, contact lensed and inordinately sexy in a white shirt mathematics geek of Proof. Jake, no maths geek himself, has made it clear that he is very much a man of words not sums and, for me, this was the role where Jake did not succeed as a geek. He made up for it in other ways, though.
Most recently, we have Robert Graysmith, undoubtedly a geek and possibly somone who took geekness to scary levels. Jake found the obsessive character of the real Robert made him feel a little uncomfortable. But Jake was superb in capturing the mannerisms of this unusual, tunnel-visioned man, led as Jake was by the ultimate directing geek - David Fincher.
Flixster did a list of its favourite movies for geeks. This was the criteria: 'Geeky cult classics are beloved to the geek sub-culture. They are discussed, quoted, and reminisced over well after the movie is over. They can have done not well, or kinda well, but they cannot have done VERY well in the theater. They contain elements of genre in them (horror, scifi, fantasy) or they can be animated – but never a Disney flick. They can be amazing films, but often they are simply mediocre crap. These are the things defining a geek cult classic.' Sometimes it can be hard to distinguish between the amazing and the crap. However, Donnie Darko is clearly the former and features in top ten lists for both geeks and those who consider themselves non-geeks.
If you read Flixter's review of Donnie Darko here, you can expect big spoilers because geeks have the advantage in that they understand the plot.
And is it a bad thing for an actor to be regarded as a geek? I would argue that, in the case of Jake, not at all.
Includes pictures from IHJ and Michael Stipe.
40 comments:
A geek that looks like that - Hell Yeah!
Thanks WDW, you've plundered the depths of geekdom to bring us a quirky post. What are you trying to say? Jake's a geek? What is a geek? I wanna know :o)
So, can you have a sexy geek? Can you have a sexy genius?
WDW, Yes to both.
I happen to think geekiness is a very desirable quality, and something I ardently seek in a man. It takes one to know one I guess. A swoonsome, beautiful geek is ideal. And metaphysical potency? Now there's something to think about. ;) Great post!
Hi Sheba! See, you wanted cheering so I thought I'd be geeky and do a geeky, cheery post. One of the things I love about Jake (and there are many) is that element of geekiness he doesn't deny but seems to celebrate and which I know is in me. I wear glasses - that means years of playground teasing and accusations of geekdom.
So what am I trying to say? Is Jake a geek? I think he is sometimes and I think he brings all of the characters he plays closer to us for that.
Hi Anon - thanks for commenting. I think geekness is desirable too and swoonsome and beautiful is some ideal. I do think there's a lot to think about - what is it that we find so attractive about Jake and what makes him that ideal man? (Aside from the obvious of course...)
Geeks are attractive, I think... and I think their time has arrived, as proven by Steve Jobs and in some way, Bill Gates.
But a swoonsome geek... now, that's not that common :)
I still think that Jake was miscast in Proof, but I think the description "vulnerable genius" is rather appropriate for Jake :) Although I thought that is for Gywneth's character in the film as well.
For me, the most adorable geek Jake has ever played is Robert Graysmith :P but of course, you totally can't marry this guy!
Hey Winterbird :D Ahhh, a swoonsome geek - not a common beast :) I definitely agree about the wonderful portrayal of Robert Graysmith by Jake - but yes not a man you want to marry! And I didn't like his car...
Hey WDW! My friend was at Starbucks today and she ran into James Marsden..who she had a conversation with..and he said that they will be done filming Nailed in a week..I don't want them to leave yet!
Hi Nicole! I wouldn't have minded working in Starbucks round the State House this year... Thanks for the info - I think this backs up Variety's report that Nailed will wrap by 22 June. Now we need it to reach our theatres. I'm not surprised you'll miss them but what a time we've all had :D We've been very lucky to have had such a glimpse into the filming, thanks to you and Lisa :D
Haha WDW, this post arouses my own inner schizoid-weirdo self that loves Monty Python, Blade Runner, Donnie Darko and any film that has One Great Line -
I wonder if Torchwood qualifies - Ive just started watching this, thanks to some of y'all, and second episode has a great line (regarding pity for the alien that emigrates simply for great sex and then dies alone. . . ) Is this a reference to Roberta Sparrow's "Everybody dies alone"?
However I have argument with the Fixter who describes Donnie as schizophrenic, which he was not: his analyst was aware of this and gave him not meds but placebos. (this is only revealed in the Directors Cut.)
I dunno, Jake can do a toubled look from a swoonsome male and a troublesome look from a swooned male and also comedy.
Actually, I think both the Telegraph piece and the Fixter make some pretty broad generalizations, Elizabeth.
My definition of a geek remains a math genius at university who was totally inarticulate socially and had a long hairy neck.
Man this is one effed-up comment. The weathers turned absolutely chillllly so I should do better.
And GLAD TO HEAR Nailed will be finished on time so Jake can let his hair grow for PoP.
Hey Pia! Great comment, thanks :D It arouses that element of my self too.
Interesting to hear you've been watching Torchwood. I enjoy certain episodes and can't stand others - so I'm conflicted.
Please define long hairy neck :D It's much cooler here too although a little bit warm indoors. I'm glad thinking Jake's going to be moving on to PoP. Tht's what I want next :)
Great post, WDW! It's always interesting to look at Jake from different angles. I think it's a bit harsh of the Guardian article to suggest Jake's built his career on geekiness, there's much more to him(and the characters he's played) than that. And I'd hardly put Tony Swofford in the "geeky" category!? I'd never really thought of it before, but I suppose to those people who for some reason aren't obsessive Jake fans like us, it's easy to typecast him as the guy who always plays geeks (either that or the gay cowboy). I wonder if one of Jake's reasons for wanting to do POP is to break away from that label.
In any case, I agree that no one does it better than Jake (yes,of course I'm still talking about playing geeks ;)) - he does it so well in Zodiac that I don't fancy him AT ALL in it! Not that I find all geeks unattractive, just something about Graysmith (no offense, Mr Graysmith (or Jake) if you're reading;)
On a separate note, sorry to be off topic, but some of you mentioned the tribute to Heath on the DVD of INT (which I still haven't been brave enough to watch) but it's not listed on the back of mine. I was wondering if WDW,Ruby or anyone else who has the playusa version has it, cos mine is Canadian so I'm wondering if it's just the US version that has it?
Hi there TL :D I was a bit surprised myself to see Swoff listed as a geek... But I kind of agreed with the Guardian's view of Jake as someone who combines the qualities of a geek and those of someone who makes us faint dead away with his beauty.
I definitely agree that Jake may well want to break free of this troubled angst, which he's beens o good at showing, and that may have motivated PoP. Jake was wonderful as Robert Graysmith - but I have to admit that in some scenes, especially towards the end when the hair grew scruffier and the clothers more ill-fitting, I really fancied him too :D
I'm afraid to say that I've not yet had the bravery to work my way through all of the INT DVD - I'll look tomorrow. I would have thought I have the same verson as you.
Hey WDW! See, that's weird about Graysmith, cos when I look at random screencaps,especially the later scruffier ones, like you say I think Jake is gorgeous in them, but when I watch the film, he does nothing for me - which as I've said many a time, is an achievement worthy of an Oscar;)
Don't worry about the INT thing if you don't feel up to it, I just wondered if you knew. PLease don't feel you have to watch it for my sake, only do it if you feel ready:)
TL, the tribute to Heath is not mentioned on the back cover of my DVD, either, but it is there nonetheless. It's quite brief, but, as I said, lovely.
WDW, are you serious in wanting me to describe what is a long hairy neck. It was just a wee bit swanlike, and a wee bit hairy. I suspect its not uncommon, but anyone with their wits about them would ask their barber to wax it.
Great post today, and always love reading Pia's, and TL's too, and everyone here, really. :)
I always define my ideal geeky-love as someone who has an outstanding quality that makes him stand out above the rest, be it staggering intelligence or something that is a gift, but he's not entirely comfortable with having. Maybe a bit of rebel and non-conformist too.
What makes Jake an ideal man? Well, aside from being one of the handsomest men I've ever seen, he's got a lot going for him besides that - talent, thinking, involved, humor, real, and as down-to-earth appearing as one can expect from a rich and famous person, cuz obviously I don't know fer sure. To me, he's just got an indefinable quality that is very, very attractive.
Hey TL - that is very weird about Graysmith - there are a few occasions when Jake just peeks through - I'm thinking of that lter scene when he's with the handwriting expert in the garden for example. I need to check out the rest of the INT DVD - I should get some time to myself later this week when I can check.
Thanks Pia - I know what you mean now, I hadn't thought on it. I do like that bit of hair, the tail that some men have. Jake has it on occasion (including now I think).
Hi Bertie! I enjoy reading everyone's comments too. I love your definition of a geeky man - someone who stands out for being different. I'm not certain what that indefinable quality is either - but Jake has it in abundance :)
Thanks for letting me know about the INT DVd, Pia:) I'm guessing mine has it too then.
WDW, you're making me want to watch Zodiac again, to see if I can see traces of Jake's sexiness in it ;D
Hey Bertie! Thanks for saying you like reading my comments - the same goes for me with everyone on here:)
thanks from me, too, Bertie, and likewise, Im sure - and as TL said, also everypeeps! it's a loverly place to be!
There was something really really likable about Jake's performance in "Proof." I think about it a lot, honest. Without the gentleness and decency of Jake's Hal, Gwynneth's character would have faced a long, bitter, lonely life. Who knows, maybe the future Hal might have suffered a Ted Hughes fate, but the movie lets you have the pleasure of imagining a best-case scenario for the two of them.
But as for the word "geek," let's go back twenty years, to the time when a geek was an oddball who could only find work in a circus sideshow, and a nerd was a socially inept guy who studied all the time, walked around with pencils jammed into a pocket protector, and/or spent such periods at his computer that he couldn't remember what day it was.
"Nerd" has pretty much disappeared now, and "geek" means what nerd used to mean. :-/
O that's right Paul, a "geek" in the circus would bite off the heads of chickens.
Hi WDW,
Relevant to yesterday's discussion of a Brokeback opera, here's an interview with the composer from today's Philadelphia paper.
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/19757069.html
Cheers
Libby
Thanks Libby, very interesting -
Thanks Libby! The more I hear about this, the more intriging it becomes.
Great article, WDW!
I have a thing for geeks myself (dated two software engineers ages ago...) and Jake, apart from his gorgeousness, has a certain quality that makes them all the more endearing. What about his characters in The Good Girl and Lovely and Amazing. Do you think those qualify as 'geeks' too, in their own way?
Cheers
Paola
Good morning everyone - and it's a chilly one :D Thanks very much for the comments overnight - great to read them.
TL - yes, you mustwatch Zodiac again to detect sexy geekness :D
Thanks Pia *)
Hi Paul! It's interesting the terminology because I think in the UK we would much more say nerd than geek, speaking for myself, anyway.
Morning Libby - thanks very much for that :D
Hi Bertie :D
Morning Paola! I think that the Lovely & Amazing character would certainly apply - there's something vulnerable about him. Not so sure about TGG.
Have a great day everyone :D
G'day sweetpeeps! O man what a difference a cool fresh crisp sunny almost-summer morning makes!
Second in a row!
G'morning, Jacobo! - regarding your "what makes Jake so attractive?" question, WDW, don't ask me - ! - I wake up on a good morning and look at the Vanity Fair portrait on my fridge and say: "You are the most freakin' beautiful man in the whole wide world and I just wanna kiss you. . ."
Ive never gotten beyond that. . .
Not askin' why, just sayin' thank you! (on a clear day)
John Lennon on UTube singing "imagine" made me cry, this morning.
p.s. who welse looks like he really means it?
pps not welse ELSE
WHO ELSE? there are none else :D
"what makes Jake so attractive?"
Mmmm.... Jake has been an exception, not the rule to me. Normally I don't like guys who "know" they are good-looking, if you know what mean. But somehow Jake has this strange combination of vulnerability and confidence. He's clever but not cocky. He's polite but not pretentious. He doesn't take himself too seriously but he's also professional.
And on top of all these, he has gorgeous eyes, hair, body and erm, smile.
Do you know how rare is it?
Jake wasn't exactly coddled by his parents and older sister when he was growing up. Even now, I imagine that they have no hesitance about scolding him when he's been a jerk. Not that I think he's a jerk very often, knowing what his fate will be if he is. :-)
I've got Brokeback the Opera on the brain now. The only thing I'm curious about is that I've always thought of The Mountain as being benevolent, but it may be more ominious in the opera, from what I read in the link Libby was nice enough to provide us with. Thanks, Libby! I've had the image of Jack singing "Dream River" by The Mavericks all day - operatic, rugged, cowboy, and romantic song. :)
Hi there Pia :D What a wonderful start to the day and a good answer to my question. When I wake up I'm greeted by my Jake calendar telling me what day it is :) Noone like it.
Afternoon, Winterbird! I love that mix of knowing and not-knowing too. I like that Jake seems to enjoy his looks while not being afraid to play with them (Jarhead hair or lack of for example). He is unusual and I like those unusual elements in him - they all add up :D Gorgeous eyes and a gorgeous smile (and lots of other gorgeous bits).
Great topic to think about on a wet and chilly afternoon :D
Hi Paul and anon - posting at the same time :D
I agree, Paul, that Jake knows what's what - again it goes back to wishing I was a fly on the wall at some of those family meals :D
Hey anon :D I've always thought of the mountain as benevolent, like a nurturer, provider, haven etc. I haven't read the interview yet. I'm looking forward to it when I get home.
Hey, WDW and Anon -
from "the story" - boys coming down from the mountain:
"The mountain boiled with demonic energy, glazed with flickering broken-cloud light, the wind combed the grass and drew from damaged krummholz and slit rock a bestial drone. As they descended the slope Ennis felt he was in a slow-motion, but headlong, irreversible fall."
^^A menance or foreboding is very apparent in the short story's landscape, or just a harsh landscape - but the film has more warmth, it's where they found each other (or I like to think, what brought them together), and the only place where they can be truly accepted without apology, and where they are truly happy and peaceful. Maybe that's just me, or that film is visual, and I'm a mountain person who feels at home in them, and a sense of spirituality in them.
Hi there Pia and Anon - it is interesting, the differences in the ways in which the short story and the film treat the mountain. Ans, also how we treat it, as individual viewers and/or readers. I like the view Ang's lens gives us and I suppose its his Mountain that I think about but I have responded to both. One of the main reasons why I first wanted to see the film, long before I knew what it was about, was because I knew it featured Canadian landscapes and I wanted to see what Ang Lee would do with them.
I suppose Ennis and Jack would both have their different responses too...
Yes, interesting. I like the view where they are place where Heaven meets Earth, symbolic of open and spiritual places, and then there is the view that they are symbols of barriers, difficulties and obstacles to be overcome. Different points of view to think about. :)
I had heard a little about the premise of the film briefly, and it being set in Wyoming - both were enough to let me know I would love it immediately - and I did. The story's characters are almost mythic to me, so that's why I think it would translate well to opera. The Mountain to me was non-judgemental, and gave them the gift of each other, and Ennis sorely needed that, and Jack too. When they "came down to earth" is where the difficulties began.
Ok, I'll shut up now. :)
Hi Anon - that is so interesting - the contrast between open spaces and then the confines of rooms. I can see what you mean about the proportions of the story and its tragedy translating to opera - be intriguing to see how they could bring the mountain to a stage without reducing it. Don't shut up! My internet is playing up again but I'm here listening. It'd be great if you could choose a name so that we can get to know you - it's very interesting talking to you - I'm going to do something Brokie for the post tonight now :D I'm in a Brokie mood.
OMG A BBTm post tonight!
In Annie P stories landscape and weather and emotion all interplay; the mountain that has been a symbol of innocence begins to broil with demonic energy because it is now ini the process of being seen in a diff'rent light (by the culture and by Ennis who is bound by the mores of the culture) as will be the homosexual activity of these two men -
Split rock, broken mountain - all of this story so heavy in powerful symbolism.
Okay, as Anon said, I've said my piece (I think), I'll exit stage left)
Go, WDW, go!
(Do I need some special wine for tonite?)
p.s. and it's not even Friday, yet.
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