Tuesday, 5 May 2009

The Nailed and Brokeback Blues

Jessica Biel, Jake Gyllenhaal's co-star in Nailed, has been speaking about her frustration and disappointment with a film that remains, I'm very sorry to learn, unfinished. Despite enjoying the experience of working with a director she admires immensely as well as a very impressive cast, Jessica is 'devastated' that all that hard work may come to nothing.


Roger Moore at The Orlando Sentinel reports: 'That was definitely an experience, something I could NOT say no to," Biel told me in an interview. "I am a huge David O. Russell fan. It’s just heartbreaking that so many people put so much work into this particular project only to have it sit there, unfinished. But it’s one of those things where we had no idea it would have happened. If I’d had an idea that it might happen, would I still have done it? I don’t know. Probably. I had an incredible experience with David and the rest of the cast. It made me a better actor. For all that, I’m devastated that it’s not finished and who knows when it will be and will come out. I still have my fingers crossed that something good will come of it, that it will be finished."



Jessica's not the only one, I'm sure. And good luck to Jessica in Coward's Easy Virtue.

Annie's Brokeback Blues

Annie Proulx appears in the new Spring 2009 issue of the Paris Review's Art of Fiction and, in a reprise of her comments to the Independent last September, Annie confirms that she wishes she had never written Brokeback Mountain and had never created Jack Twist and Ennis Del Mar.

'I wish I’d never written the story. It’s just been the cause of hassle and problems and irritation since the film came out. Before the film it was all right.'


'In Wyoming they won’t read it. A large section of the population is still outraged. But that’s not where the problem was. I’m used to that response from people here, who generally do not like the way I write. But the problem has come since the film. So many people have completely misunderstood the story. I think it’s important to leave spaces in a story for readers to fill in from their own experience, but unfortunately the audience that “Brokeback” reached most strongly have powerful fantasy lives. And one of the reasons we keep the gates locked here is that a lot of men have decided that the story should have had a happy ending.'


'They can’t bear the way it ends—they just can’t stand it. So they rewrite the story, including all kinds of boyfriends and new lovers and so forth after Jack is killed. And it just drives me wild. They can’t understand that the story isn’t about Jack and Ennis. It’s about homophobia; it’s about a social situation; it’s about a place and a particular mindset and morality. They just don’t get it. I can’t tell you how many of these things have been sent to me as though they’re expecting me to say, oh great, if only I’d had the sense to write it that way. And they all begin the same way—I’m not gay, but . . . The implication is that because they’re men they understand much better than I how these people would have behaved. And maybe they do. But that’s not the story I wrote. Those are not their characters. The characters belong to me by law.'


'I haven’t had the same sort of problem with anything else I’ve ever written. Nothing else. People saw it as a story about two cowboys. It was never about two cowboys. You know you have to have characters to hang the story on but I guess they were too real. A lot of people have adopted them and put their names on their license plates. Sometimes the cart gets away from the horse—the characters outgrew the intent.'


We've discussed before here the inappropriateness and the presumption of fan fiction authors sending their 'rewrites' to Annie, although, from this interview, it sounds like Annie has been troubled by another type of reader or viewer altogether, and not one that I recognise. While I fully accept that, just as Jake has (and must) move on from Jack Twist, Annie must also be allowed to continue to develop freely as a writer, separate from a short story written over a decade ago, yet I do regret that she wishes Brokeback undone. And that she blames the film. I do hate to read that she has locked the gates against Brokeback's fans and I can't help but take it personally even though one hopes she doesn't tar all Brokeback's fans with this brush of distaste. Maybe, very occasionally indeed, it is possible to write something too good.


Includes pictures from IHJ.

25 comments:

winterbird said...

Huh? I do think Annie Proulx seems to focus on the negative and perhaps the more personal impact of the story on her than the unprecedented influence and success the story and the film have brought to the mass public!

I mean, how many people's lives have changed fir the better because of the film and the story? You cannot ignore all these good either. For once, Proulx sounds like some writers we know who focus on hassels and negative comments of their stories and forget the majority who love it.

It's a shame, but I tend to think it's just another "grumpy" rant of hers :) she will change her mind maybe in 10 years time?! Who knows? I think most readers and fans respect her ending, but trying to hope for the best is human nature and one reason we get up in the morning! Maybe Annie should learn from Bbm fans for once? ;)

Shame about "Nailed"!!!!

Tisha said...

Interesting post WDW, I often wonder if Jake has ever regretted taking the part Jack in BBM, I hope not. I mean I think he is aware of what is said on the net and it must be hurtful sometimes some of the things written about him and especially about Reese, remember a comment during the Rendition promotion (she grows a mean beard).

I know you do not like these sort of comments but thought I would post it anyway.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Perfectly put, Winterbird :) Surely, you write a story like BBM, you can't expect it to leave everyone untouched, as if they'd never read it at all. It's not so easily shrugged off. I would have thought this is the highest accolade for an author - her story has changed lives for the better, as you say. It would be awful to wish that undone.

The ending was a huge contributing factor to the power of the story and because of that ending many of us have sought to make good in our own lives. I think on the whole we're a good bunch!

A big shame about Nailed - I'm still not going to give up hoping, even it means a straight to DVD film. I'll take that. Jessica seems to have had more bad luck than Jake with her films lately. I hope they both get big box offices in the year ahead.

Talking of box office, although it's not my sort of film, I was very pleased to see Gavin Hood riding so high!

I need some of Jake's magic cold remedies, he must have them...

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Tisha, posting at the same time :D Nothing up with the comment - thanks for posting it! I do hope Jake doesn't regret taking on Jack Twist, surely he never could. A great performance for such a young man and he should be extremely proud of himself. Admittedly, I have had a lot of cold medicine today so this does make me more batty than normal, but I get quite emotional thinking of how proud I am for Jake's Jack :) I hope that Jake doesn't read much of the negative stuff and if he does catch any of it I hope he can put it out of his mind. I'm glad you were interested by the post :)

I need to dig out some ice cream...

Silver said...

Wow..interesting.
All i can say is that movie has changed my views on a lot of things, and i'm sure it has for others too.

Aww poor Nailed! Hopefully it will come to DVD :)

Anonymous said...

I kind of think like Winterbird. I can't believe Annie Proulx has had only bad experiences because of BBM. Surely she must have received also a lot of fan letters thanking her for writing it and changing their lives for the best. I wish she would focus on that.

I understand it must not be pleasant to receive a story from someone who claims his/her version his better and I don't understand why people would do that, it's pretty insulting. But it can't be the vast majority of BBM writers who do that. She should make a distinction for writers who fell in love with Jack and Ennis and used writing to help them deal with the aftermath of the movie. I started reading slash because I needed something to help with the pain and sadness of BBM and AU's where the boys got their sweet life helped a lot. I know right now some stories are very far from the original Jack and Ennis but they all come from love and are done for fun. Annie Proulx should be flattered by that. I think writers in this fandom respect her work and the characters she created very much. And they write beautiful stories.

I'm starting to seriously think we'll be lucky if we ever get Nailed only on DVD.

My word is sadly. How appropriate for this post.

Olympia

Anonymous said...

While I certainly agree that is is beyond presumptuous to send "rewrites" to Annie about her remarkable story; on the other hand, people love her story, and of course I think most people recognize it for its message of damaging social attitudes and depiction of homophobia, but that story and film touched people so much, they may wish for a world where the outcome could be different, not literally change her story. Isn't that a first step to social change? Maybe her fans went about it in the wrong way, I hope so anyway. Perhaps writing fanfic is a way for them to work it out, but I agree, to be kept strictly to oneself, or a fansite. I really do hope she nor Jake do not seriously regret helping to create or being involved with the phenomenon that is Brokeback, because after all, what if it were not the tremendous success it is?

I was one who loved her story The Shipping News, and her comment about coming back East from the West being a noticeable experience, and somewhat unnatural and stifling. Both so different, and yet so much like the areas she writes about. :)

Sometimes all of the relentless gossip gives me a major headache (literally) so I need to step back. I hope that people who become well-known simply by wanting to do something to make people happy, either by reading or going to films, can keep all of the negative that sometimes comes along with success in perspective. :)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Great comments - thank you :)

Hi Silver (I'm really resisting the urge to say Hi Ho... :D - it's the fever). Brokeback has changed my views on a lot of things too. Also, little things like making me realise how small the world is because people feel the same all over the place! I have friends from America to eastern Europe to Australia because of BBM. And through them, I now see the world a little differently. It also led me to people almost on my doorstep :)

Agreed, Olympia. Annie must have been deluged with letters thanking her for helping them to change their lives. And I don't class the fanfic that many of us have/do enjoy with the type that Annie is describing here - this sounds odd. Our writers, I am sure, are well aware that Annie's story cannot and should not be changed. They write for themselves and us, not for a big audience. Not for Annie!

Don't give up on Nailed :D You never know... What a sad word :(

Hi there Anon (love to have a name for such a great comment :)) I totally agree that people did get the point, the message. It would be difficult to miss. Neverthless the situation, even the location of BBM can still be applied to our lives because it went beyond one message, one location, one set of circumstances. Obviously it was about homophobia, but it was also about prejudices and settling for what society expects. You don't have to be a gay man to know what that feels like.

You love the Shipping News! OMG I love that book - absolutely love it. As a piece of writing, I actually prefer it to BBM (dare I say that?!), whereas I preferred the BBM film to the Shipping News film. You can feel the wind blowing across that landscape, ad the idea of pulling a creaking house across a wilderness and that tying it down with chains. I loved the concept of houses tied down with chains. I can see why locals might feel unhappy about this portrayal, but (I have family in that region) I think they should feel the opposite.

As for Wyoming, I've never been (except at 38,000 feet) and I have no idea what it's like there.

I do agree with you, Anon, that the negative (and gossip) is an unfortunate side-effect of success and I too wish that people like Annie would take the rough with the smooth and move on.

Anonymous said...

Hi Silver (I'm really resisting the urge to say Hi Ho... :D - it's the fever).Hee! Funny. :)

I'm not from Newfoundland, but New England, with relatives from Nova Scotia, and her descriptions of the unforgiving landscapes and the metaphors of that, and that people must adapt to, and have, are amazing, in both Wyoming and on the edges of the Earth in the Maritimes and New England. Some of the local delicacies and expressions of the people made me smile. I think people should take great pride in these places, and be flattered. Annie is great. :)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

I totally agree, Silver :) Annie captures those landscapes and communities, almost literally living on an edge, perfectly. But she also makes the characters and personalities rival the landscape ad elements in their force.

Anonymous said...

I can understand her views. She wouldn't have felt this way if she was not being bombarded by people sending her stories changing BBM. It is her work, it would be like telling michelangelo that he should put clothes on the statue of David.

She can't still have a sour taste in her mouth since I heard she has contributed to the BBM opera (a libretto) I think she still holds these characters near and dear to her heart. But I think at the time of this interview she was angry that people would try to tell her that all that hard work she put in was not being appreciated. Or that she should have changed her vision so we'd have a happily ever after. Would the movie had had the same impact if it was a happy movie? I don't think so. And in it's own way I think BBM has had a big impact on legalizing gay marriage and the treatment of gays in general.

sweetpea

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Sweetpea :D I'm not as sympathetic - imitation is a form of flattery. These people were wrong to send their 'rewrites' to Annie but she must know by now in what kind of esteem she is held and I do think that should outweigh the trouble she is getting from these men sending her their new versions. And, as you say, I agree that BBM has had a significant impact on gay rights, not just in the US, but also on perception and understanding. Annie should be very proud :)

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Morning all, hope everyone has a good day! Another one under the blankets for me, I'll try not to sneeze all over you :(

Flower said...

WDW i send you some sun from here.
I hope you will recover soon. :)))

Always when i look Jake and Heath together at pictures i feel sadness.. i miss Heath so much, he was great person just like Jake.
Sometimes i wish he newer except role in Dark Knight. This black and white picture is so great, can you blow up..

I am glad that BBM was shoot, it was beautiful story and still is..

Flower said...

* I wish he NEVER..
Sorry :))) still learning.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Flower! Thanks fo much for the gift of the sunshine :D If you click on the b&w picture it gets a .bit bigger. It's gorgeous. Heath was a wonderful actor - Ennis Del Mar and the Joker seem worlds apart but I do enjoy the Joker even though he terrifies me!

My Benjamin Button arrived today :D

Anonymous said...

(((Flower))) I miss him, too. I still feel it was a terrible mistake. I will never change my mind about it. There are still fleeting moments when one feels that sudden stab and misses him very much. There's a quality to the pictures of Jake and Heath together that is so innocent and optimistic, and joyful.

Heath's movie screens at Cannes, again this year, just as I'm Not There did in 2007. I'm only just saying that you needn't feel silly about it ever, Flower.

paulh said...

Poor Annie!

I would never want to change a word of her story or of the movie's screenplay.

All I can say is that effective writing is hard work, very hard. Most serious writers take to heart the admonition that you're not supposed to use someone else's characters in your writing. Obviously, when the originators of James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, and the Witch of the West died, there were other writers who came forward to imagine further adventures of these icons, but without rewriting what the original writers had done with them. In many cases, they did a good job.

In Annie's case, the reimagining of Jack and Ennis's fates hasn't been not done as serious writing, nor have the writers waited until her death. I'm with her in wishing that these writers had not thrust their versions in her face. Moreover, it is well known that Arthur Conan Doyle, for one, was thrown for a loop by the success of his creation (Sherlock Holmes), and unsuccessfully tried to kill his character off, only to receive such public clamor that he had to resuscitate Holmes for numerous more stories about him.

So, Annie Proulx has good company in the form of other writers who also wished they had never written some of the characters that they created. It comes with the territory, I suppose, but Annie is too good a writer to wish any of this on...:-(

paulh said...

In the second line of the third paragraph, the phrase "hasn't not been done" should have the "not" removed. Sorry about the typo.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

(((Anon)))

Hi there Paul :) That's interesting, the Sherlock Holmes revival due to public pressure. Some characters just take on life after the page and authors can't put them back there. But Annie is a great writer - saying so much with so few words - and I hope that she is able to feel pride in what she's created.

get real said...

(((WDW))), hope you are feeling a bit better today. Still sending you some chicken soup.

I am really sorry to hear Annie Proulx feel that way about the film. I understand her frustration at some fans but overall the film had a great impact and I wish she would appreciate that. As Winterbird said it is a shame and I hope that opinion changes.

As for Nailed. :( :( :( Not good at all. :( I really want to see it and have it do well in theatres. Who knows if either will happen...sigh. Keeping fingers crossed for some good news on that.

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Thanks so much Get Real and thanks for the soup (I could do with some after just blowing up some salmon in the microwave - went everywhere...). It really is a shame about Nailed and I feel sorry for Jake as well as Jessica. All that time spent - but stranger things have happened. Some good news on the movie front would certainly be appreciated :D

Anonymous said...

I completely understand Annie Proulx's feelings of regret.It's ashame, really. I do think she is wrong to assume it is just men who are sending her slash. Most of the writers I know are women. I only know two men who are slash writers in the BBM universe.

However, I think it is SO wrong, really bad form, insensitive, arrogant, and plain stupid to have the nerve to send her work you have done to HER characters and her plot elements.

It is just criminally wrong. Shame on whoever was deranged, yes, unbalanced enough, and selfish, and self-centered, and caught up enough, to do such an insulting thing. We're not "workshopping" in a college dorm, here.

Flower said...

(((Anonymous)))
I know this sounds little bit childish.. but i miss Heath so much.. when i watch his movies i start to cry..
Thank God for YouTube, some people with videos try refresh moments from BBM or they make various J&H videos with great music, all i need good tissue..

Wet Dark and Wild said...

Hi Anon - I certainly wouldn't want to tarnish with the same brush the many fanfic writers out there in the BBM fandom that we know and love who have written for a small and receptive audience and would never, ever dream of sending anything to Annie. The stuff that Annie is referring to sounds from outside the fandom to me. So I don't think she's wrong here - she knows what she's referring to.

(((Flower))) It doesn't sound childish at all - many people here feel the same and we talk about it here often. We have plenty of tissues to go round xxx