A picture retrieved from the Brokeback Mountain cutting room floor has caught our imagination - it's the one with Jack and Ennis sitting round their fire, eating their misbegotten elk and laughing rather uncharacteristically. Hardly surprising, because when Jake Gyllenhaal described that scene for Ted and Lisa, he made it very clear that this was not a Jack and Ennis moment but Jake and Heath sharing a laugh about the decidedly unromantic behaviour of chewing elk round the campfire. It was a Jake and Heath moment.
This picture was retrieved and so have some others, but you have to wonder what we're missing. This was brought home to me when I was watching this video. It's a feature on Brokeback Mountain which, in addition to some pieces of interview, includes images from the trailer and from the film itself, which seem to have got lost between the beautiful mountains of Alberta and the theatres.
So, I've been on a search for Brokeback Mountain's deleted scenes. The script shows they existed and other people have referred to them, but with those involved in Brokeback's production supporting Ang Lee's decision to leave them out, hearsay may be all we get. Tom Benz, the Production Manager, was certainly diplomatic here when asked about the 'lost scenes'. James Schamus, the executive producer of Brokeback, told AfterElton about the DVD: 'They wanted to put in some deleted scenes. There was a discussion about deleted scenes, but quite frankly, as Ang said, “The reason I deleted them was because I wanted to delete them. So why would I put them in the DVD?” [Laughs.]'
This does, of course, beg the rather horrible question of whether they really are deleted deleted scenes! By all accounts there is one scene that did not make the cut - or the original script - that everyone involved never wants to see again. And that is the scene that James Schamus himself added - the infamous hippie scene. This scene took a week to shoot instead of the intended two days and pushed the filmshoot over schedule. The scene showed Jack and Ennis rescuing hippies from an overflowing brook. Its aim was to show the two men were competent cowboys but with a healthy redneck loathing for hippies - Ennis: 'If it's a hippie, we ought to scalp him.'
Fortunately, thanks to Brokeback photographer Kimberley French, some pictures survive.
But this isn't the only missing scene. In another scene, Ennis was portrayed tending a sick calf in a barn.
The film was originally to begin with Ennis at Signal's gas station learning some unpleasant truths about Joe Aguirre before he located Aguirre's trailer. One would think this scene was removed because the alternative opening - Ennis and Jack eyeing each other up slowly and carefully outside the trailer - was so irresistible and iconic.
Other deleted scenes include Jack giving Ennis an expensive rifle, which Ennis refused; a truck carrying Jack and Ennis up to the sheep and then down again, their summer done; and a steer wrestling scene.
It is very clear why a scene in which mechanics sneer at Jack and Randall was removed. This scene was due to be snuck in between Ennis and Cassie's one-sided showdown in the diner and Ennis' final visit to the post office. With this deleted scene gone, the mystery between Jack and Randall survives for us and for Ennis and the Dozy Embrace is left intact as our farewell.
Finally, another removed scene shows Ennis at the Godforsaken Twist family plot.
I think noone would question Ang's decision to remove these scenes from a film that is in innumerable ways near perfect - where every scene has a multitude of purposes, meanings and intentions, thanks to a stunning script stunningly delivered, acted and directed. Yet, with these scenes safely removed from the film that stands as Ang wished it to stand, it would be a gift to those of us who treasure this film and the men and women who made it, if we could take a look.
Thanks to Finding Brokeback for their meticulous and loving dedication to preserving Brokeback's places and memories. Pictures from Kimberley French/Focus Features and IHJ.
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Sorry for the lateness of the post, friends. This turned into much more of an undertaking than I'd reckoned.
Wow! Thanks for this WDW, another labour of love - never seen these before - I really yearn for more. You're right... I understand Ang's position - that's clear - but he needs to understand ours. It's all we have left to see other snippets of their lives - the good and the bad. BBM the movie will be intact - even if these extras do one day see the light of day. They will be for us - the true Brokies who really need this.
Hi Sheba! So glad you liked this - I've been planning it or a while and it turned out to be slightly more ambitious than I expected :) But it's so interesting to get an idea of Ang's vision and these scenes really did have to go, but, as you say, it would be so great for us to see these clips - BBM is intact but we could see more of Jack and Ennis. I don't know what Schamus was thinking of though with the hippie scene! I get a good feeling when I see pics from scenes such as Ennis being a vet to the animals - I want to see more of it. And it wouldn't hurt the film, which is perfect as it is.
Quite an undertaking indeed,WDW! Though all your posts are informative,well-researched,fun or touching,or both,with a wonderful choice of photographs (beautiful subject matter helps there,of course!)there is always something extra special about your "Brokeback" posts and this is no exception!
I agree completely that while the film, as Ang wished it to be seen, should remain inviolate,there are many of us who have long yearned to see those deleted scenes which you've explained and illustrated here. Perhaps many,like me,yearn to see them even more now that any footage of Heath,especially as Ennis,has taken on an even more precious quality.
I dreamed for some time of a "Director's Cut" DVD being released at some stage with the deleted scenes present as a separate bonus feature and a commentary on the film as a whole by Jake and Heath. Tragically,the latter can never happen now,but maybe one day we will get to see those deleted scenes in their entirety,not just the tantalising stills you've showcased here.
I still wish that they'll put these deleted scenes on a dvd one of these days. I agree - they won't *ruin* the movie. It'll keep its magic forever. The true Brokies will understand them as additions to learn more and keep loving everyone for making this movie.
I don't know how often the scriped had been revised. I read an older version and compared it with the final movie - and I can say I really love the movie. And yet I'd love it to see some of these deleted scenes, though I don't know whether they had shot them.
But as always - there's always hope and no one can take it from us.
T.
Thanks Nadine :D Brokeback posts are special for me too and, strangely, I usually find myself doing them on Sundays. I really, really agree that now especially, all chances to see Heath on film are extra precious and I want to see these scenes more than ever. It doesn't hurt the final film as Ang saw it, but it would add to our experience of Brokeback and give us more of Jake and Heath together. But I can certainly see why they were left out.
It must have been very odd filming that hippie scene, knowing it just wasn't up to the film or script. part and parcel of filmmaking I suppose.
Hi T :D I hope too that one of these days we get to see these little moments and we get more of rounded view of what Ang's intentions were. This film matters so much, it would be beyond good to learn more about the process of making it.
The scene showed Jack and Ennis rescuing hippies (during the 1980s) from an overflowing brook.
Don't you mean the late 1960's or early 1970's (re: jack's sideburns minus moustache)?
Hi Sheba - I read that this hippie scene was set in the 1980s, but you're right that this isn't borne out in the filming by Jack's lack of moustache. So probably 70s. I'll change the post :)
It's kind of exciting, there's so much more we're finding out about this wonderful movie 3 years after filming. Thank goodness we also have youtube interviews such as The Charlie Rose interview with Ang and Heath that reveals so much more ...
The film was originally to begin with Ennis at Signal's gas station learning some unpleasant truths about Joe Aguirre before he located Aguirre's trailer. One would think this scene was removed because the alternative opening - Ennis and Jack eyeing each other up slowly and carefully outside the trailer - was so irresistible and iconic.
Absolutely... deliciously irresistable... no words necessary. I love that they take around 4.5 minutes before they say a word to each other. Plenty of time to eye each other up ;D
Oh my, these are absolutely beautiful and priceless - some of these would have been heartbreaking in the film, Jack giving Ennis a gift, is that Jr. on horseback with her father, Ennis tending a sick calf. Sigh. Thanks so much for this. :)
Sorry, I see that Ennis was rescuing a woman. Some of the cowboy chivalry things. And the one of him visiting the Twist family plot is very sad. This is a great post. Thanks again! :)
Hey Sheba - I don't think the film could have had a more perfect opening than it got. I rememebr when I first saw it, how this just blew me away. I just can't ecxplain it. And I think it took bravery too to open a film with as little dialogue as this - just glances from under hooded eyes and hats. Spoke volumes.
Thank so much BK, I'm really glad you liked the post. In that scene, Ennis is getting to give a lift to some very lucky hippies :D It would be so good to be able to see these scenes in moving pictures. The cememtery scene could be one too far though... Thanks for commenting :D
Amazing post, WDW. And yes, quite an undertaking!
I remember some conversations about Jake on the bridge, that this was a stand-in, but it looks like Jake, to me. Hadnt seen the second one. Hadnt seen a few of these, actually.
Thank you for the campfire picture, esp.! The Ted and Lisa interview with Jake remarking that he and Heath joked about the homoeroticism of gnawing on meat seemed a bit of stretch, personally didnt find two guys chawing on elk jerky sexy, haha, but I expect there was quite a bit of laughing off of anxiety during this film.
It's an extremely beautiful picture of Jake and Heath together.
Oh I so agree - I know Ang made the film the way envisioned it to be, and I certainly respect that. But, a Special Anniversary Edition with maybe? deleted scenes would be a dream. I'd get in seconds. But it is certainly ground-breaking and beautiful just the way it was made. Some of those scenes of ranch life and further insights into Ennis and Jack's complicated relationship are great tho. It just makes me treasure the characters of Ennis and Jack even more. :)
Thanks Pia! I do love to get a bit of background to this pic of Jake and Heath and I think the laughter must have been a necessity. And not much erotic about eating elk! Not had much call for doing that round here... As for the bridge pics - it certainly looks like Jake to me and there seems little reason to suppose it would be a stand in. One of the 'traditional' arguments :\ I'm glad you like the pics.
A special anniversary edition would be wonderful BK! Let's hope Film Focus are listening. Some of these scenes and pictures really show what a good job Ang did to put so much into so few scenes - and into so few words. But having Jake and Heath must have made that easier :)
Forgot to say -
That first picture of Heath and Jake, as I know now it's about, has always been one of my favorites too. Jake has a great smile in it. Nice to know the story that goes with it, thanks to Ted and Lisa.
And shirtless Jack on the bridge - just gorgeous.
Nite all. :)
Hi there :D Knowing the background to that picture just makes such a difference and I love it all the more now too :) And Jake without a shirt is always good... Night *)
I've always loved that first pic of Heath and Jake, and now even more that Jake shared the story behind it with Ted and Lisa, and they shared it with other fans.
Me too, Narcissa :D I'm so please d they shared that with us all. Thanks for commenting :)
Good morning everyone! A beautiful day out there :D
And a very good sunny English morning to you WDW and all fellow WDWers!
Just going back to that campfire shot,I always thought it looked more like a case of Heath giving Jake the Gyllengiggles or vice versa,rather than interplay between Jack and Ennis. It was SO good to have the reality of that confirmed and expanded upon by Ted and Lisa in their monumental and magnificent journal!
Would love to stay for more Brokie reminiscing (one of my favourite pastimes) but I've gotta get the house and myself in order before I get off for my dreaded Monday afternoon shift! :-(
Have a great day everybody! xxx
Morning Nadine :D one of the very many loveable things about Jake is the Gyllengiggle. Hope work goes ok xx
Hey, we're Wilders now? - I like it :DD
My holiday time and housework are going to hell in a handbasket 'cos I can't keep away :DD.
I really would love to have seen the scene where Ennis refuses Jack's gift of the rifle. Jack looks so proud. One can imagine the look of hurt in his eyes when the gift is returned... perhaps like the affection he never fully receives back from Ennis.
One thing though, these beautiful pictures of 'possibilities' remind me to get out and do the things I long to do and get done - not just think about them. Very inspiring post. Carpe Diem everyone xx
Morning Sheba :D Hope you're having a good break! I would really love to see the rifle gift scene too - I just want to see more scenes with Jack and Ennis together full stop, but this one looks very interesting for their relationship. Also, I'd really like to see the scene of Ennis tending the sick calf - this isn't a side of Ennis that we saw much of in the film.
Carpe diem is the feeling I took away from the film - and it's good to be reminded of it.
Have a good day :D
Outstanding post, WDW!!!!
The one thing that always lingers for me with BBM, is the regret that I didn't see more interaction between Ennis and Jack.
We got those long shots of them riding thru the mountains companionably over time, but little interaction, conversation, etc. Even the horseplay/affection between them running around shirtless outdoors after SNIT, was done from a great distance.
I wish that we'd have just a few crumbs more of how deeply affected they were by their feelings for each other when they were in a place where they felt safe! I don't mean love scenes, necessarily, at all. But things along the same lines as the Heath and Jake scenes at the campfire!
Hello everybody!!
I'm not sure if I would like to see teh deleted scenes... I think BBM is one of those rare movies that are perfect and I'm afraid some of the DS would change the perception I have of the film or parts of the film.
What I would love to see though is more behind-the-scenes material. I have both the widescreen edition and the Two Disc Collector's Edition and although I love them I was disappointed because I expected more.
I have to go now but I'll be back later!!!!
Hve a Jake week!!!
Hey, y'all!
Same as Sara, I'm pretty happy with BBMt as is, and "less is more" seems in tune with Annie P's spare style.
There was another deleted scene where Jack's offer to groom Ennis' horse was gruffly refused.
Id like to see directors commentary,as I loved Ang going on and on about symbols in commentary to Sense and Sensibility. And of course and seventeen or whatever takes of the FNIT - and more of Rodrigo, he's quite handsome, and Ive got a thing for cinematographers.
Have a good week, everybody!
I agree that "Brokeback Mountain" was perfect as it was. Still, I can't help wondering what evil secrets about Joe Aguirre might have been floating around that gas station in Signal. ;-)
It must have been annoying to the actors who portrayed hippies that their scene was cut. If they were generally extras who were in other scenes, that might have been more bearable. (Zasu Pitts lost more than half of here scenes on the cutting room floor, because she ruined so many takes with her scene-stealing)
Finally, a change of subject: those who have seen "Rendition" might be interested in a new book called "The dark side: the inside story of how the war on terror turned into a war on American ideals," by Jane Mayer. It tells how extraordinary rendition began.
Hi there everyone - been sent home early due to offices being rearranged - happy sigh :D
Hi Anon! I'm so glad you liked the post :D I agree with you more than I can say that, although the film was perfect in so many ways, I would have loved a little more interaction between Jack and Ennis, but I suppose that's me being greedy.
Hey there Sara :D Brokeback is just as it should be and there were probably good reasons for all the deleted scenes to be left out. But now, we're a few years on, and I would like to see another edition, with these extras - although I can understand if the hippie scene never makes the light of day :D
Morning Pia :D I could certainly sit through as many outtakes as there are days in the year for FNIT. I do regret that there's no commentary for Brokeback - it seems more of an omission than the deleted scenes. I would like to know more about how Ang worked with his actors and the landscapes.
Hi Paul! I was thinking about the hippie actors when I did the post - it must have been annoying for them. I wonder what they made of it all. Thanks for the info on the book.
Hope everyone's having a good day, mine got better as I have my feet up :D
Wow, thank you for another post of treasures, WDW! Have not seen many of these pics before. Beautiful shots. I agree BBM is a masterpiece and should not be touched. But I would be very interested in seeing behind the scenes and deleted scenes.
Also, had to say how much I loved the last post of Jake with animals. He really knows how to communicate and nurture them.
Sorry I haven't been commenting much. Computer problems. :/ Am always reading though! :)
WDW, nice that you got off work early. Enjoy the rest of your day everyone.
Great to see you Get Real! Very sorry to hear about your computer troubles but good to know you're out there :D And I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the animal post - I had so much fun doing that one :D Have a great day!
Poor sweet Jack - a sign of love is wanting to do for the one you love - gift-giving, offering to groom Ennis' horse. I didn't know about that scene, Pia, but these are the things I imagined Jack might feel, and also, the gruff tenderness that Ennis would have, (tending to the sick calf, and that cowboy chivalry, rescuing those who need help, standin' up for the women and children with the bikers) when I've filled in the blanks in my imagination, and having watched a lot of movies in my day. But I don't know if I could stand to see Jack face more rejection from Ennis - that time when Ennis turns him away after the divorce breaks my heart. BTW, you gotta see the 3:10 to Yuma if you haven't - the costumes are mindblowingly beautiful, as well as the film itself of course. Russell Crowe is amazing in it, as well as Christian Bale. :)
^^that should read, watched a lot of cowboy movies in my day. ;)
Anon - thank you so much for that great comment - being in love, wanting to give and the gift not being accepted, that is so hard to experience and to watch with Jack and Ennis. I've not seen 3:10 to Yuma yet - I find it hard to believe but (except for Butch Cassidy and City Slickers - western?), I've not seen another Western. Thanks for that :D
Its a tender mode, wanting to give to one you love, so beautifully expressed by Ennis offering to sleep with the sheep, ordering soup, which he didnt like, all more poignant I think because Ennis was the stoic one -
I loved the ordering soup moment, Pia :) For a man like Ennis, this feels like a big deal.
Its a tender mode, wanting to give to one you love, so beautifully expressed by Ennis offering to sleep with the sheep, ordering soup, which he didnt like, all more poignant I think because Ennis was the stoic one.
You are so right Pia. I love this film so much. :)
I think that Enis talking the most he had taked in a year was a pretty good sign he was interested ,Op
I can't help laughing every time I watch the opening scenes. When Enis and Jack are waiting outside Aguirre's trailer and Jack is checkin out Enis. I can't help thinking "Yeah! He's cute. isn't he? Just what the doctor prescribed you". And then when Jack leans on the truck it's like "look at me!". :O) LOL (O: He is not being very subtle.
BTW, thanks for all the effort and detail you put in every post. It's a delight reading this blog. :O)
See you later!!!
Hi Sara - and thanks so much for those really kind words! Jack and Ennis certainly caught our attention right from that opening scene - a superb opening and I rememebr how it hooked me instantly when I first saw it - I hadn't seen a start to a film quit like that one before. Amazing :D
would love to stay on BBMt - who would not?
oh well!
Pia, I'd be happy to stay up on the mountain :) So please do stay round here if you wish...
Hi WDW!
TY for this fantastic post. Jack looked so delicious leaning on his truck flirting with Ennis.
What an iconic scene; I remember feeling nervous just looking at him in all that blue denim wearing his gorgeous black hat. He was so hot in that scene, I had to go see BBM again the very next day, to take it all in one more time :)
Great post, WDW! I can certainly believe it took you long time to assemble it together! Thank you so much :)
I always feel a bit torn between respecting Ang Lee's decision to leave the deleted scenes out (not just of the final cut, but of the DVD), and a still persistent curiosity to get to see them... well, perhaps with the exception of the hippie scene, which sounds well... awful, I'd say...
Did I tell you, I have a little snippet of the actual film ("film", as in "film strip"). Last year I was in Paris and I bought the French collector's edition of the BBM DVD, that also contained a set of 10 postcards and some photograms of the film strip. No way to know from the box which scene they would be from, but I was lucky: the ones I got are from the opening scene, when Aguirre calls them into the trailer and you see Ennis in the foreground with a foot already on the trailer steps, and Jack in the background still glued to that truck, but about to make a move...
What an iconic scene, I still can't get enough of it.
Take care,
Paola :)
Hi there Sass! Just a perfect opening to the film - I don't think I'll ever forget the first time I saw it.
Hi Paola :D I remember hearing about that edition - so glad to hear you got one. I know it was hit and miss which scene you could get and I remember someone taking her's back because she got all Aguirre! Ugh... But well worth the risk.
Have a good day everyone :F
BBM will always be my fave movie. What Heath and Jake did was special, and they were brave doing it. Taking a risk.
Thanks for the vid, I hadn't seen this particular one before. I loved listening to Heath's take on playing Ennis
and the rest of the cast as well.
Trekfan
Hey there Trekfan :D Heath and Jake showed no hesitation and were so brave with these roles. I'm so glad you liked the post and video - thanks for commenting, friend :)
oh and Kate, that was me in the other thread about Nailed. I was making a reference about the movie Candy and how think films screwed that movie over
Trekfan
thankyou so much for this page... i have been in search of deleted scenes for quite some time now n i found this page very informative... so a big thankyou to u!
my god how i love this film! i cud watch it everyday n never grow tired of it... it still makes me ache n cry everytime i watch it without fail
wanting to see deleted scenes for me is more our of curiosity... not a feeling that the film needed more or was lacking sumthin (cos it certainly wasnt either)... i wud just simply like to see more "moments"... just for my own selfish satisfaction LOL
Anon, thank you so much for such a lovely comment - and that is exactly how I feel about BBM. This particular post was a real labour of love and I'm so happy to see it's still being read. Thank you very much for commenting :)
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